Spies like us: The MvC3 C.Viper Team/Matchup Discussion Thread

I feel the same. But from what I’ve seen i’ve been training myself to do different things and actually try different characters so i can have a better understanding of what else is out there.

Can Wesker Zero, Ammy or Chun play a part within a team with C.V? I like Chuns legs and I thought that to be a good assist with C.V and Chris. I like Ryuenjin with Zero, but there isnt much going for him in the DHC area from what ive used lately.Wesker is said to be a good anchor(?)

you can DHC from Viper to Chun’s fireball super if you time it right, it’s not that hard. i used to play Viper/Chun/Wesk for a while, but getting in with Chun-Li was just too much of a hassle. you can probably use seismo to OTG into legs into relaunch, but Wesker’s gun is a lot better for OTGs. currently i play Viper/Iron Man/Wesker and it suits me fine, though as you’ve seen the recommendations are away from that because all Wesker really offers Viper is easy OTGs, though you can use Viper’s BK assist for Wesker relaunches when he’s on point. he’s a good anchor in part because he’s fast enough in XF3 to relaunch for himself and his damage gets quite high.

Problem with Viper/Wesker is that Viper get’s absolutely nothing from Wesker and the DHC’s are crap.

I wanna run CV, akuma, dante. What’s everybody’s personal opinion: CV/dante/akuma or CV/akuma/dante?

I’m leaning for dante 2nd for DHC capabilities, and I’m leaning for Akuma as anchor due to obvious XF3 damage related (and easy punishes with his beam hyper) advantages.

And obviously going for the jam session/tatsu assists to cover both vertical as well as horizontal ground.

My only problem is thinking of ways to incorporate akuma’s tatsu into viper related combos. It seems much easier, in general, to keep TM’s arrow assists or any beam assists as opposed to tatsu lol

Great potential. I’ve tried Akuma assist and it’s okay for Viper. I don’t believe it is the best because she has a hard time hit confirming off of the tatsu with her moves. Atleast a harder time than other characters, but that doesn’t mean it still isn’t effective. Her mixups with the Tatsu assist aren’t the best but if you can manage to create some traps with tri-dash cross-ups+assist ect. You could get something going. As for combos I haven’t placed any stock into that assist for combos yet. Nor will I ever really try. I just don’t see it working too well unless you have the corner and its part of a finisher or relaunch.

As much as Akuma IMO is the best beam assist in the game (yes beam assist) You will have better options if you go with a different horizontal projectile.

Magneto is a good option for Viper, as is Task, Doom, and IM. I hope Viper’s new charge move in Umvc3 will be a great horizontal beam because It would give me a reason to try a different character for my viper team.

Overall, I’d say Taskmaster is the best gun assist simply because of how little it scales the combo’s. IM is a close second, but the scaling on it means you have to adjust you tech. Magneto’s gun is still very good, and Magneto gives you great safety DHCs, and… well… you get Magneto…

Trish Low Voltage assist is also good. It certainly is not as good as Arrows or Disrupter but still very passable. It starts up slower and has very low durability, but good enough to utilize for mixups and has slightly higher vertical range. It also hardly scales in damage and hitstun, and leaves the opponent standing on hit. Plus Viper/Trish duo is very solid, sporting crazy Round Harvest setups, keepaway/zoning and Trish allows Viper to kill even Thor with around 1 starting bar of any clean hit, without glitch/X-factor.

I ran with Viper/Trish for a while, and it was indeed good, but you can’t do the beam>TK hit confirms, and round harvest setups, while cool, seemed very unnecessary when Viper and Dante kill everyone pretty much instantly.

Trish does have some very important good matchups though.

Sentinel is also a solid choice.

Fuck it all, I’m going Viper/Haggar/Phoenix.

hurrr

Durrrr. Atleast you will be top tier for the next 2 months. Then you’re back to square one. But by then you’ll have 12 new characters to F- with.

Can someone help me?
My current team is Viper, Spencer, Wesker.
Spencer and wesker do good together, but my biggest problem is with viper. I have the hardest time getting in. I try to tri dash to the overhead or sesimo into spencers assist. I just dont know hot to get to the other character safely. It seems like if Viper gets hit, shes dead.
Viper is my best, and if she touches you over half life is going to be gone, i just need to know how to get that hit.
My team can be changed.

for your team i would remove wesker. Viper and spencer already work really well together but changing wesker for taskmaster or another projectile character would help alot more. I also ran viper/wesker for awhile but I just didnt really like it. it did not seem to work too well

Yes i was thinking the same thing. I was thinking of putting doom on the team but i also find it hard to get in with doom.

Yea I have always believed that Wesker and Viper dont really essentially do anything for each other except for unblockables both ways with their assists. Having Wesker on a team can never hurt, and Viper doesn’t really need any assists to get offense going, but if you want something to compliment her their are much better top tier choices coughDANTEcough

Viper unblockables with Dante/Ammy are easier anyways.

dr.doom wouldnt be a bad choice. you dont really have to worry about getting in with him, since his defense is already really good. but dr. doom would work really well. If you dont like dr. doom try trish. apparently her low voltage is faster in ultimate. I use her now and she is really fun to play. She does not have much trouble getting in because she can outzone alot of the cast so if you cant get in switch to zoning

i am almost sure i will switch it up to viper/dante/iron man in ultimate (atm magneto 3rd slot). even though most people said magneto actually may be even better in umvc3 because of his new move, one of the main reasons i play him is his superjump H loop. :smiley: that shit is just too much fun and looks damn sexy, but it’s gone in ultimate. i also think i like the idea of giving IM dash-cancelable air normals, might be pretty sexy too.

I’d like to have both Viper/Chun Li on my team but who should my third be? Was thinking someone with projectiles such as Trish? Beginner here, not really into using Wolverine/Dante/Akuma/Wesker as I really dislike them./

well if you want Chun-Li on your team you must be a glutton for punishment =P
i’d suggest someone with an assist to help you get in - IM/Doom, perhaps?