Spies like us: The MvC3 C.Viper Team/Matchup Discussion Thread

Just realized that Dr. Doom, would also be a great team mate for Viper. Hidden missiles is great for trapping the opponent and beam is great for covering Viper’s approach, but best of all is the DHC from Viper into Sphere Flame… Not a Doom player but I will test it out in a bit :slight_smile:

i think i might test it to. ill run viper trish adn doom like we though of earlier lol.

I was playing with my team the other day and put Trish on the team. I was trying to set up an unblockable with round harvest. With Viper do combo>Burst time, and DHC late into round harvest. The big difference between this and a normal insta-kill DHC is that you would build some of you meter back with the unblockable and following combo. However, I couldn’t get it working so that they couldn’t tech-roll out. I figured I would mention it in case someone else could come up with something.

Eventually i just replaced IM with Tron. Tron assist into 1000k with viper is too good, plus it gets rid of the IM DHC problems. So, Viper/Tron/Dante.

you can combo into round harvest after burst time and while burst time is hitting set up a trap and call in viper again and wait a bit and then start to charge focus attack. I believe that works for an unblockable.

Also Im not sure who it was but i believe viper and zero do work well together but for this team i would play zero on point. I thought it was pretty kool that you can combo knock them down, go into zeros shadow clone mode and then dhc into vipers burst time. It seemed to be pretty effective because now the zero assist has the clone attached to it. So i started running zero(hadangeki) viper(burn kick) and dormamu(black hole). its not gonna be my main team but i found it to be pretty good

The problem is that if they roll out of the corner the round harvest will push them around so that you can’t really set up an unblockable (high/low or focus). When you do Round Harvest after a Trish jS the timings is much different. In that case it’s usually best to Tri-jump back and then throw the super. You don’t have that luxury with the burst time DHC.

I haven’t tested what you described, but it sounds like it works depending on how they air-tech or if they have a mobility option. If your comboing into Round harvest though, it’s probably better to just DHC into something that kills them outright. Which is easy enough to do with viper.

im thinking about running viper with ryu and wesker anyone got any advice for me on that one?

@GriizlyK from ur team composition, its like chris G’s team (ammy/ryu/wesker) but with viper instead of ammy. Unless u are running viper as battery i suggest putting her as second slot with ryu on point because of his high damage combos, and a perfect battery for viper. The only problem with viper on that team is how is she going to get in or how is she going to be able to keep a lockdown/pressure gameplay. And if you watch Chris G’s strategy with his team, ammy builds meter, ryu will super after any grab, wesker combo to team hyper, his team is very much meter intensive. Having viper/ryu/wesker, imo (assuming u are putting viper on point) if you are willing to sacrifice meters i suggest switching ryu with a character with a projectile(beam) assist.

thanks for the advice i was planning on putting viper second no matter what guess i should have wrote down the actual order i was planning on using. But your right it seems like a beam type assist would def be better suited, sucks to cuz i really want to use ryu. Any thoughts on a Ryu/Viper/beam assist type character?

oh lol i was thinkin ur anchor was wesker so thats why i was suggesting to change ryu. If you are looking for a good anchor with a nice projectile assist, i recommend ameterasu with coldstar. If you want to add in another high execution character such as Ironman in the 3rd slot coupled with his unibeam assist more power to you lol. I would like to say doom with hidden missiles/photon as 3rd but its to ur discretion if you are comfortable with him as anchor. As long you have an assist that will make c.viper be able to get in, ryu/viper/xxx looks like a good team because ryu and viper really do dish out high damage on combos alone, you can even put viper on point, since you are able to add pressure now with a projectile assist.

edit: I forgot to add sentinel with drones assist, taskmaster with horizontal shot, can be ur 3rd char :smiley:

sweet i think im gonna give ammy and ironman a try see which of them i like better thanks man!

Spiderman/Viper/Ironman is my main team now.

Spiderman is the best battery for viper i think, they have the same combo motions. if you can do vipers dash combo spiderman is cake! spiderman can do some nice damage without meter. if you have Doom missiles 900k+ meter less combos. perfect dhc, vipers seismo assist is great for spidermans uwt or mx hyper. i feel like spiderman and viper is meant be like wolvie and akuma imo.Viper is still my main character just like how marns team is his best character is in the middle. Advice?

Well the DHC capabilities aren’t too bad between Spiderman and Viper. If I remember right you can’t DHC from maximum spider into Burst time which sucks. Spiderman seems to shine with an OTG somewhere because you can do a lot of his reset damage combos. I feel like Weskers OTG suits Spiderman better for mid range OTG resets because of the range on the angled gun shot. Iron man is a really good Beam assist for Viper and spiderman. Keeps the enemy in the same place. Only problem is it greatly scales the damage. Still really high priority beam. You could try Burning kick and iron mans otg would probably be nice seeing that Burning kick assist with spiderman could give you a LOT of high/low unblockable/opportunities seeing spiderman has wonky angles on approach. Could be very effective.I can’t give much advice because I don’t play spiderman/ironman enough but as long as the synergy is effective i could see potential.

on a side note. I’ve learned viper is technically 5 DHC characters in one. Damage wise she does just about enough damage as any good 3 DHC characters into one another in the game. Her battery is just so good. But everytime I test out new combos if I end them with one hyper used on her and then use the last 2 on the other characters you will see about the same damage give or take if you do the proper combo with 3 meters used on Viper alone. This really lets you control your team more. If Viper is on life support you do the proper 1 hyper meter usage combo to get her out of there and you will still do the same amount of damage no problem if you have the proper DHC’s. If she isn’t go balls to the wall and do the most insane combo you have to keep her in for the next character.

I tried that sipderman viper combo. I actually liked it alot. and if you choose web ball as an assist for spiderman, you can seismo and then web ball and it holds them in place for enough time for you to rush them down. Also can you DHC from crawler assult to burst time.

synergy with viper and spiderman.

Nice stuff, definitely seems high damage.

Have you tried your hand with him against Phoenix teams? Feel that the duo works well thanks to the UWT + Emergency combination DHC stuff against her?

Thats not me playing but that prety much how my team looks just with ironman. i beat some phoenix teams. you can grab her out the air with web throw when shes jumping in or when shes chuckin fireballs then tiger knee maximum spider. still difficult match for me. Web throw is pretty good when people try to zone you out.call assist - web ball - web thrown easy damage.

Not trying to sound like a killjoy but… can’t most of the cast escape the web throw reset (with varying levels of difficulty)?

do you mean ultimate web throw set up? you cant air recover from a air web ball so its a free uwt. go into train mode and put dummy on air recovery forward then hit them with a air web. may be if you double jump but your so low to the ground you will still get grabbed i think.

Like I said, I’m not very familiar with Spiderman. Have you seen this thread (List of escapes in OP)? I’m not sure if your set-up is different somehow, but it doesn’t appear so to my untrained eye.