Spies like us: The MvC3 C.Viper Team/Matchup Discussion Thread

What do you guys think of a team of Viper/Dante-a/Dorm-a? And Viper/IronMan-a/Dorm-a? Any other possible combination worth trying? I really don`t care dropping any character (excluding Viper, of course)!

character crisis here

i made a post a while ago asking if i should play viper/vergil/ammy or viper/doom/ammy, after which i decided on vergil. imo a lot of viper’s damage comes from airthrows… and its important for me to be able to kill someone off those. this can be achieved off either a doom TAC or a vergil DHC, now here’s the thing: with vergil i get guaranteed TODs and with doom i get a better assist, ALMOST guaranteed TODs and way more synergy (vergil ammy is good but not as good as doom ammy)… so the smarter thing would seemingly be to play doom but i dont really know. i hate giving someone a second chance, you know? whether it be a TAC break or a reset i just dont like it

im struggling to decide at the moment between an assist for viper i like dante’s weasel shot for lockdown and covering lauren but it seems jam session is superior its just that i am using missiles which kind of does the same thing, im not sure if its possible to setup her unblockable with weasel shot but i dunno thoughts guys?

I’m basically in the same spot right now but with Strider anchor. Doom vs Vergil in the middle is a tough call. I’ve been workin on Doom since DJ’s write up to test the waters so I’ll see how it goes after my local monthly. I wonder if missiles are really worth giving up those spiral sword touch of death DHCs.

I would say play both variations and switch depending on the matchup.

:frowning: spooby pls, help me with the magneto matchup guys ive never felt so free to this missiles+ 100x disruptors before… input guys? ex seismo is pretty good but mid/fullscreen i can barrely throw a seismo let alone a well placed one.

running viper modok beam vajra

Yeah Magneto really forces you to understand Viper’s neutral pretty well because he always has a way to spam his own projectiles on the screen. I only really got to play against any Magneto players again like last week and it seems like mixing in M thunder knuckles with the seismos is the best way to approach. M thunder knuckles help you get in past the spam plus absorb all non super move projectiles minus a few. Learning some other stuff like rapid seismos or seismo FADC can help but I really think it’s just about placing the right seismos and the right M thunder knuckles until you get in.

Man, I was just kidding about switching Vergil for Doom. Viper/Vergil/Strider is so good.

That being said I got completely blown up by a Zero/Drones player. It was all bad… I’m kind of at a loss of what to do against Zero other than zone the shit out of him. Strider helped but not as much as I’d like to and way too often his dumb ass would whiff and land on drones. I’ve had similar problems when I play Zero/Dante players because if Vajra runs into a Jam Session he’s completely boned but you have to do something to keep Zero’s ass on the ground.

There’s also a dude around here that plays MODOK/Missiles. That shield he puts out there is super annoying and it’s so hard to get seismo pressure started between his quick beam, missiles, and his ability to just float above your head (and block if he has to.) I find I have similar problems with Dorm and his flame carpet and missiles. Maybe I just need to be more patient.

Im a sucker for a good assist so ill always go with doom over vergil, plus running two meter hogs like viper and vergil doesn’t seem very conducive. You don’t have to go for the TAC, you can go for an oki set-up.

As for the rest of you guys, how do y’all feel about viper/trish(or trish/viper depending on the match-up)/ammy? My current trish team of trish/sent/akuma doesn’t seem to be working well for trish so I’ve been considering switching it up and I’ve always wanted to play viper so I figure this might be my chance. Plus I love ammy so why not run all 3 on one team I though. The team seems better(although vipers otg is horrible, only otg’s when trish is right next to the opponent) gives trish otg’s off her throws in the corner, gives her access to the unblockable and when trish dies Im left with viper/ammy a pretty potent combination to say the least.

But I figured id run it by the professionals and see whats good.

yeah i went with doom :smiley:

I habe a guy in my FL who plays that exact team of trish/viper/ammy and it’s strong as fuck. It’s also possible to otg seismo for trish midscreen and do rountrip, st.s, j.s, j.s, round harvest into unblockable, he does it all the time. Though i don’t know what exactly his inputs are, but i guess he just does dash + assist after the first knockdown. Did you try that?

I didn’t actually spend a lot of time trying to get the mid-screen combo down, most of my practice time was spent trying to otg after an airthrow mid-screen. Well since I know the combo is possible ill put a lot more effort into trying to get it. Thanks for the vote of confidence, now Im gonna have to start learning viper, Im excited and terrified at the same time lol.

Ah okay, well i do’t know about following up midscreen airthrows. But if you have a bar, you could just do harvest, raw tag viper for an unblockable. Seriously, the whole team is a walking guardbreak. Viper/ammy already is, and with trish it’s even more so. ^^

I can second what you speak of. Trish/Viper/Ammy is one of THE cheapest teams, once Trish hits you you’re dead, simply because of the Viper unblockable.

any interesting viper/storm synergy?

as the teams i play against are starting to stack more and more top tier assists i feel like making it rain and telling everyone to go fuck themselves

I’ve been experimenting with some of these teams recently (but I’m a beginner and I’m bad, so my results are not at all correlated to what a real player would think…); which ones seem viable for use?

Viper [Burning Kick], Skrull [Tenderizer], Strider [Vajra]
Viper [Burning Kick], MODOK [Psionic Blast], Amaterasu [Cold Star]
Viper [Seismic Hammer], Trish [Low Voltage], Amaterasu [Cold Star]
Viper [Burning Kick], Dormammu [Dark Hole], Magneto [EM Disruptor]

Maybe I could change Trish or Skrull or Dormammu’s assist to be something better? Which team is the best out of these (or are none of them viable at all)?

Thanks for the help!

I play(ed) Viper/Skrull/Strider. Definitely works. Gives you an easier-than-using Vajra relaunch, it’s good for setting up on-incoming focus attacks, and it’s even decent AA if you protect it from getting punished and/or are against a character that can’t really punish it well.

I dick around with Viper/Dorm for fun on my third team… can’t say I’m that fond of it, but it’s not the worst thing ever. Gives you a good DHC kill combo with stalking flare though (assuming you’re comfortable with performing inputs without seeing your character). Of course you could just use Chaotic Flame even if you’re not.

hey guys decided to run a team of viper{burn kick}, magneto{e.m. disrupter}, Dorm{x assist} need help picking the right assist for dorm for this team like darkhole works but doesn’t hold them long enough for vipers focus help plz :slight_smile:

im maning a similar team using viper (burn kick) dormammu (liberation )strider (vajra) i like the liberation assist its good for her corner combos but thats about it struggling to find something workable midscreen. then again dormamu was never really an assist character i think on pg 23-24 of the combo thread theres a vid of dark hole combos other than that none of your assists are good enough for her unblockable.

Guys is there any videos of the strider relaunch combos and do they corner carry?

how well do viper and zero play together? as teammates