I always find this funny because despite how brutally unpopular SNK is, Capcom vs. SNK is widely regarded as one of the better VS. games., and it’s a giant deviation from the traditional Marvel vs. Street Fighter mechanics.
It does need to be on PS3/Xbox360
Wiis online interface is no where near as good as Live/PSN. The real problem is the lack of dedicated fighting game players.
The vast majority I’ve played in this game were mashers who didn’t even take the time to learn the games mechanics before they went online.
The Wiis installed base is the largest in the US, but the demographic is just too young/casual for this game. They’d rather play Carnival Games than TvC. It’s just too damn bad, because this game has legs.
I hope it doesn’t die out after EVO.
Ironically, this game appeared on the Wii since it had no original Capcom fighting games to speak of. I agree it should be exposed on PS3 and 360 next time, but it didn’t do too bad for itself.
MvC3 is a big thing, and lots people will flock to it when it gets released. It already has a solid install base, a dedicated community, on top of that, worldwide familiarity with Marvel supporting it. This is a highly likely outcome, and that can’t be debated.
What TvC has going against is over half the cast of characters people aren’t familiar with, a brand even more people don’t even know (I didn’t even know who/what Tatsunoko was until I researched it), and mechanics that are different than the other VS. titles out there. Heck, the mechanics like Baroque and Megacrash alone have divided player opinion. With the announcement of MvC3, it certainly feels like the towering giant of MvC3 is going to phase out the TvC scene.
But it that really the case? I can’t see it happening. This game finally got released to the world only a few months ago in January. For the most part, its pretty much a new game to the rest of the world, as this was previously Japan/import only. It’s slow going (and difficult), but there’s progress in community growth.
TvC isn’t bad by any means. Its fun, and has things applicable for higher levels of play as seen by the crazy tournament match vids. Great games like this have a good chance of creating the community support that allows it to survive. With enough support, hopefully it’ll push the creation of better versions/sequels or even DLC(I can still hope, damnit). This is the 3rd iteration of the game. That’s gotta count for something. Also, I think there is more stuff to be discovered in this game. With so much stuff in the game, to really confirm that TvC scene will die we’d need to wait 1-2 years after MvC3 is released, then look at it again.
So to answer the topic? It’s still too early to tell.
Considering the fact that, as far as every single tidbit of information concerning MvC3 stated, MvC3 is a slightly revamped TvC engine with different characters, the TvC scene will just migrate over. The people who mained Tatsunoko characters will be a tad saddened but MvC3 will offer up more things to appeal to generally everyone. And we already know that the MvC3 control scheme is the TvC Scheme with the Exchange button and 2 assists, so most things will be similar or exactly the same in execution, just with an ability to do more. Only problem for TvC players besides the characters is the console switch.
I don’t recall anything ever saying that.
it’s implied.
It’s implied or people are making silly assumptions?
i think people are making silly assumptions that it’s implied…
I’m inclined to agree.
I also recall Seth saying that the game will play closer to MVC 2 rather than SF4 and TVC.
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I’m inclined to agree.
“fact that, as far as every single tidbit of information concerning MvC3 stated, MvC3 is a slightly revamped TvC engine with different characters”
There’s the ryu’s shinku hadouken, then the buttons scheme, then the morrigan’s hyper, then animations from ryu’s specials…
I don’t think they’re silly at all honestly
Much like people said that TvC was going to be the new marvel, people are now saying that marvel is going to be a new TvC. Fact is, much like before, there’ll be some shit that’s the same, and some shit that’s different, and it won’t be the same game. It’s easier, however, to associate something you don’t know with something you do know.
Anyways, it’s not going to be the same game, obv, some people will like it more, some people will like it less. Get over it.
Sounds logic, but in this case is much more in favor of tvc, cuz yeah, like someone said, every single tidbit of information, and none seems to be in favor of mvc3, excepting for what a community manager says (which is to be honest just saying what the “community” wants to hear).
Oh, and forgot one and the most important actually, Nisuma.
But yeah, letis wait and see, for me it’s pretty obvious.
It doesn’t matter how similar or different MvC3 will be from TvC, the thing to remember is that the hardcore Fighting Street community is rolling over in their graves at how different this game is from where it came from, and how buttons are no longer pressure sensitive.
It really takes all the skill out of the game that you can hit a button as hard or as soft as you want to, and still get the same effect.
In order to avoid having this marked as spam, I have created a jpeg that conveys my opinions on this topic, and in it I include the most relevant/important groups to consider. You’ll notice that there is some overlap.
And before anyone comments on the quality* of my work, I’m guessing none of you spent 3 1/2 years at a big name, unspecified art college majoring in MS Paint with a focus in Venn Diagrams, so don’t waste your time on uneducated things like aesthetics, logic, or your opinions.
*Ignore the mistake on not creating some of the intersected population outside into the general populace. There should definitely be a lot more categories than there are, and they should all intersect in a really complex way (some douches are scrubs too, and some OK guys don’t play video games at all!), but my professor on Really Complicated Venn Diagrams was terrible.
Whether megacrash should be in MvC3 relies on whether the game will have a baroque like feature. Imagine having your first character killed and then seeing your opponent have so much red health they kill your second character in just a few hits. It would take away the whole point of having really long combos with tight executions. Like Keits mentioned earlier, megacrash as it is now would be really dumb just because of how much meter is gained, of course, all they would have to do is reduce how much meter you gain post-megacrash. So if they do add baroque to MvC3 I would be inclined to think that they would be forced to put in megacrash. Regardless of how MvC3 turns out I will play it, if you personally dont like what it has to offers go back to the game of your preference.
As for what will happen to TvC that all depends on the TvC scene. I know I will still play TvC as long as is has tournaments for it.
An interview from Glenn Cravens (from Get Your Tournament) with me on the Tatsunoko vs. Capcom scene, as well as a link to my blog from the week before:
http://gytnews.com/articles/interviews/royalflush-explains-his-commentary-about-the-tatsunoko-vs-capcom-scene.html
posts like this is what makes you seem like a troll; like you’re actively trying to rile people up by saying “MVC3 IS GOING TO BE EXACTLY LIKE TVC!” when its not. its not going to play exactly like mvc2 and its not going to play exactly like tvc…why does it matter which one its “closer” to? if you truly like both games it wont matter, the game will come out and youll just love it to death.
on the tvc side…i see wiis are now 199, and since i just got a pretty substantial raise at my job, i could buy one of these next week without a problem and still pay my rent.
im just wondering, is it worth it? is there a lot of matches to be found online? should i just wait til mvc3 or tvc2?
I’ve never had trouble finding a match any time of day or night. There are plenty of people to play with. I rarely bump into any player from here or other boards when looking for random fights, so that just goes to prove how many players there are. If I remember correctly, my ranking is about #11,000 (i dont play ranked, fiy. that would be a terrible rank if i was trying!). So there are at least that many people.
The number one thing I suggest is paying $12 for a lan adapter. It makes a world of difference if you can play wired. Some people make it work wirelessly, sure, but that thing changed my life.
ok…
what kind of fightsticks are available for the wii? or is there a ps3>wii converter so i can just use the one i have currently
This is the wrong thread for this question lol, but if you need to know wii has alot of sticks or a decent amount at the moment. You have your Madcatz TvC edition $80 bucks and Hori Ex for the wii is 40 - 50. and No there is no PS3 to wii converter wii is kind of a backward console lol and new New Gen ps3 can’t go backwards with out the use of Dual mod which is a whole new story.
yeah sorry for the derailing.
on topic: EVO is do or die time for TvC; people are starting to notice it, but some real epic matches need to happen and hype needs to be got big time. I hope all the TvC fans go support it and draw more attention to it.