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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/14909/FuLLBLeeD">FuLLBLeeD</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Jesus christ this shit again? If you aren’t using KK you are an idiot. Do I really need to explain why its important for a footsies character to be able to confirm as far away as possible off his normals.<br><br>The extra 20 or 30k you are getting off your c.M, S weed mountain dew doritos combo isn’t worth it when you are sacrificing range.<br></div>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor” style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><a href="/profile/14909/FuLLBLeeD">FuLLBLeeD</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText” style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>OTG H Smart Bombs xx Iron Avenger is such a fucking pain in my side in the corner. I usually backdash to make it easier, but you lose 40-50k damage that way. In order to get full damage you have to wait until they are in hard knockdown state then do H Smart Bombs xx Iron Avenger as one motion. There are also hitbox anomalies on characters such as Wolverine where you have to wait even longer than normal.<br><br>How do you guys do it?<br></div><div class=“QuoteText” style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div class=“QuoteText”><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>You’re contradicting yourself here. You’re saying 30-40k isn’t worth it but in the 2nd quote it is? You’re sacrificing the higher consistency of hitting Iron Avenger with the backdash just for and extra 50k? Like i mentioned before, BNB depend on the player not the combo. Just because KK is your BNB doesn’t mean everyone else needs to use it. The Iron Man thread has been so stagnant because people like are telling people not to move beyond KK. This is why I feel that while even though he has the potential, we’ll never get to see because people like you are too busy bashing it because it’s not KK. </span></font></div>
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<br>So cool thing that I realized in the lab last night. Against SJ spam characters, I can jump > IADU + Log > UB M > land > dash and still convert at just inside of full screen, lol. This made me realize that I’m not abusing what Log gives me to my fullest, though…<br><br>On the topic of weed mt. dew doritos combos…Log gives me a lot of situations where I don’t have to worry about max range confirms and all that goodness since I’m almost always in range to go straight into dash > s.HS > etc after the wall bounce.<br><br>Anyone know if there are any options that are worth exploring outside of KK-esque variants since conversion range isn’t an issue for a change?<br><br><strong>As far as what I’m going for now with KK-esque followups to log.</strong><br><br>Off raw log, this works: Log > Dash > s.H cr.HxxFly, f.HxxUnfly, j.H, land, j.MMdHS, land, cr.MS etc.<br>This does 750k+ depending on if you’re in the corner for the little ADU extension and want to burn the meter.<br><br>It’s possible to do this same combo off UB M + Log but scaling brings it down to ~500k after the meter (and the c.MS seems to be a really tight link and height specific so I don’t feel consistent against smaller characters. It may vary based on whether they’re grounded or not, as well) IIRC, it doesn’t work off c.HxxUB L/M+Log or RB+log conversions at all. More often than not, if I get a UB/RB+Log confirm, I feel like s.HS is the safest option and I would like to do something better than sj.MMHdHS for the launch portion on those situations.</p><p>Since I have a unique opportunity to use some of the other combo options in a reliable fashion I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand or knew of interesting options. My main interest is building meter more than damage but if there’s some combo that can branch into a great reset point, I wouldn’t hate that either.<br><br>Any help would be greatly appreciated.<br><br></p><blockquote class=“Quote”>
<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/14909/FuLLBLeeD">FuLLBLeeD</a> said:<br><br>How do you guys do it?</div>
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<br>Usually just wait a bit and rush the inputs in the corner. On a lot of the double RB followups you get put in a nice spot spacing wise and I’ll trade reliablility for 40~50k any day of the week.
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/69720/Death2494">Death2494</a> said:</div>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/14909/FuLLBLeeD">FuLLBLeeD</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Jesus christ this shit again? If you aren’t using KK you are an idiot. Do I really need to explain why its important for a footsies character to be able to confirm as far away as possible off his normals.<br><br>The extra 20 or 30k you are getting off your c.M, S weed mountain dew doritos combo isn’t worth it when you are sacrificing range.<br></div>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor” style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><a href="/profile/14909/FuLLBLeeD">FuLLBLeeD</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText” style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>OTG H Smart Bombs xx Iron Avenger is such a fucking pain in my side in the corner. I usually backdash to make it easier, but you lose 40-50k damage that way. In order to get full damage you have to wait until they are in hard knockdown state then do H Smart Bombs xx Iron Avenger as one motion. There are also hitbox anomalies on characters such as Wolverine where you have to wait even longer than normal.<br><br>How do you guys do it?<br></div><div class=“QuoteText” style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div class=“QuoteText”><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>You’re contradicting yourself here. You’re saying 30-40k isn’t worth it but in the 2nd quote it is? You’re sacrificing the higher consistency of hitting Iron Avenger with the backdash just for and extra 50k? Like i mentioned before, BNB depend on the player not the combo. Just because KK is your BNB doesn’t mean everyone else needs to use it. The Iron Man thread has been so stagnant because people like are telling people not to move beyond KK. This is why I feel that while even though he has the potential, we’ll never get to see because people like you are too busy bashing it because it’s not KK. </span></font></div>
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What are you talking about dude, H Smart Bombs xx Iron Avenger is the ender you use to combo into level 3 regardless of what bnb you are using. <br></div>
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Backdashing vs not backdashing to land this ender also has nothing to do with why your unique snowflake bnb is worse than the KK. Also I do use other combos sometimes. Sometimes when I land crossup ADDF j.S I fuck up the flight since it crosses up so well and I get c.M, s.H, S, which all connects, so at that point I do the relaunch combo since I can’t do the KK (relaunch combo does less damage than KK). But 99% of the time I do the KK and you should too.<br>
Closed mindedness will be the death of any fighting game player or fighting game. If people prefer one combo over another, who gives a rat’s ass…let them live. Just felt like sharing that but anyway…Are you all aware of the fact that Iron Man can do Nova’s h fly h unfly loop in the corner? Just curious. I’m actually a regular in the Nova threads but I’m picking up Iron Man for shits and giggles to give Nova a good assist. But yeah…you can do something like c.M s.HS (super jump) H fly d.H unfly H land H xx repulsor. Kind of pointless considering you can do the MH d.H dash etc. loop but yeah.
=(( I wish I could find some godlike Iron Man combos but it seems like they’re all hidden in a blackhole or something lolll…I have your air to air conversion video saved in my favorites on youtube though.
Yo Duck Strong what to do to make this shit less of a pain in the ass? I could backdash before I do Smart Bombs but I’ll owe DapVip a Coke and I don’t want that.
Oh yeah and air to air combos is where you have the most room for improvisation with this character. Let your imagination soar (get it cause air to air conversion HEH).
What are the notations for the optimal damage combo for Iron Man? Also how much damage does it do? I know how to do the krispy kreme and different variations of it but I don’t know much else except for the corner tac infinite.
I just watched a video that had the inputs on in training mode and paused it after each hit. It really isn’t that hard as far as infinites go. I think the hardest part is the smart bombs. But the jump loop is super easy.
Idk if this will help you but this is how I learned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj4AtK5un7A
EDIT: Okay I seem to be having an issue. Since I am still pretty new to the infinite I guess I lack consistency. I was getting it at 90% of the time yesterday. Now they flip out immediately after the smart bombs L before I can do the air h>fly>air m>s. any ideas why they keep popping out immediately?
From what I understand, the unfly glitch is pressing S and the corresponding attack button so that the character instantly unflies and does the normal attack?