I imagine that’s close to even. He probably outranges her severely but if she gets in one time he shouldn’t be able to play for a long time. Don’t know enough about their buttons to really say how it works neutrally, but don’t see why it wouldn’t be about even.
LMAO, solid like a fart.
Yo, someone noticed how the SFV apps aren’t updated anymore?
Idk man, that’s what you see at THE HIGHEST levels of play, but at lower levels you can see a lot more variance of teams and strategies. At this point in time you are correct about big body teams since they’re is only one or 2 characters in the game that could qualify for B.B. status, but the game doesn’t have all its DLC out yet either…
However with respect to the “there are no zoner teams” in the game… this is highly false. You just don’t see zoning at the highest levels:
- Because no top player is using a zoning team.
- The top players that do use characters that can actually zone, don’t actually use those characters to zone… yet.
Almost all of friezas moveset shits on super dash so he can zone pretty effectively.
Vegeta has been seen zoning people out pretty effectively with his air DP to beat super dashes.
Hookganggod just beat sonicfox by running away and calling slow fireball to enforce his neutral.
Kid buu/cell/frieza/ginyu/Goku/krillin can all zone pretty effectively and have a team built around largely maintaining distance against an opponent.
Running away is a very effective strategy in general because the most obvious way to deal with it is to superdash in and that can be baited very easily.
Remember, it took KBR YEARS ato make his B.B. team effective enough to contend at the highest levels and there are very few other players that have a B.B. team that is wrecking shop like that.
It also took Chris G for people to understand the power of morrigan. It may look like easymode scrub shit but it definitely isn’t easy, but Chris makes it work. Without Chris though… would morrigan be as highly ranked as what she was? Doubtful.
At this point the biggest problem with lack of teams is much more the esports attitude of pick a top tier and x copy everyone elses strats, rather than there being no alternative playstyles. I’ve gotten my fucking ass handed to me by all those above characters playing a runaway/keepaway game against me, it isn’t easy, but my best team had 3 air beams for keepaway and general zoning. Krillin/gotenks/Goku. If you press an air ant button that whiffs, or you superdash at the wrong time or or forward dash/iad mistimed or whatever, my beam will hit and I’ll confirm it into good damage. This makes players more passive at neutral and allows me to get in when I want and control the flow of the game. Krillin can delay his beam, gotenks can fake his and Goku can aim his upwards or downwards (though this is much less impressive with Goku because the angle is wayto steep to be great) but I digress, I feel like most of your gripes with the game are “insert top player” doesn’t play a ranged team, or some such.
In times like this the mantle is to generally be the one that puts in the work and develops the team if no one else will, but I personally no longer have enough time to dedicate to FG’s and I don’t like hard zone teams anyways. I prefer midrange control teams so those are the teams I make.
Quitting a fighting game is tough bro. Tough.
You mean like the apps on the phone like FAT?
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I dunno man. I just dont see the game every getting to a point where top competitively you’re going to see any heavy variance in teams. Even during early Vanilla Marvel 3, Phoenix, Magneto and Dante teams were doing more stuff to zone or create space than what ive seen out of DBFZ. There are characters like Beerus where the system just isn’t designed to let them do their shit.
Marvel Infinite and BB Tag both out the jump have had clear, larger variance in team roles, space control and assist usage than DBFZ will probably ever have. DBFZ just has too many ways to home and close the gap off everything and chip damage on projectiles is non existent so you can’t really get any old Marvel/BB Tag type scenarios in neutral.
The fact that almost everyone moves the same except for Broly and now Zamasu doesn’t help this. It didn’t take this long for those types of teams to just start SHOWING up in top level Marvel. If it hasn’t been working yet, dont see why its going to change now. Just obvious hard things with how the game works that wont allow anything different but throw your shit out into conversion with 2 or 3 assists that are worth bothering with.
If fishing for Randy Savage bows and Bipson slides is zoning for Cell, then I guess he zones. Cell’s kamehameha has terrible recovery any ways so one bad one gets blown up. You have to set yourself up in a really really good spot just to even throw it once.
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And this is when I stopped bothering with DBFZ
The one character I liked doesn’t even work
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So par for the course for your characters.
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I’m not sure what you mean
I don’t recall me playing any characters where a single universal mechanic negates their entire gameplan
The Studio Trigger/Arcsys Works countdown was an announce of an announcement. 12 hours to go until the actual announcement.
Fucking Japan
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Like I said, just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t there. But yeah, it’s not likely sonicfox or kaz or go or fenrich are likely to use zoning teams any time soon, but that has little to do with them being good or not. The top players just used what they felt was best early on. There are players out there putting in work with other characters.
Cells air beam is great, takes “some” setup… like being above the opponent, but that’s about it. It’s super useful against anyone that doesn’t have an air horizontal beam. Cells air ki attack also covers the entire floor making it lava, Ive seen it used very well in combination with assists for limited keepaway along with his air beam.
Oh and there is a big body team in the game. Just pick 16/brolly then throw someone behind them. Napa comes to mind since he’s big and has armor and a good assist.
That’s kinda my point. I dont see it reaching being a regular thing seen at tournaments. Meaning the zoner/other stuff will be fun to mess around with in casuals, but dont bother pursuing to bring it to top 3 of a major. Just too many things that blow up the hit box flooding type characters in this game (the few).
when vega buffs
buffs for who
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After Cell buffs.
Which the issue with Cell is Cell is just a better version of a majority of the cast. Plus has an ok beam assist so he pretty much forces a requirement for tourneys. That’s cool cuz I like Cell (and Vegeta) so Cell stronk forever.
cell mean
a lot of people are asking me to make a new tier list for dbfz, and im half considering if I do it, make cell, his own tier, then kid buu/bardock down from him, then a completely empty tier, then the next one and go from there. Just so really beat into peoples heads how much better they are than everyone else.
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Don’t forget to ask for more clothing on android 21. That will really drive the message home.
Miles better in everything except the online and gameplat lol
Did you notice that Taki got visible nipples in SC6 and with Ivy’s costume , i am sure SC picked up where DOA left.
Abigail has Match-Ups?
I was always sure it was “Oh I hit you, time to delete your health bar” in every match-up.
If that doesn’t happen he dies.
Also DBFZ is pure garbage and has to be the worst Fighter I played beside the shit NRS makes in the last decade.
I really,really,really hope ASFW doesn’t go down this route with future games and keepes DBFZ as cash cow, while they make good and real fighter like GG,BB or UNI.
Everyone who disagrees with the same shitty points like “it catters to the people it’s aimed to!” or “It still has depth!” can go jump down a skyscrapper and meet the other 5 billion people who meme these youtube level comments.
Your taste is shit and you should be ashamed for it.