I don’t consider She-Hulk an ogre or troglodyte. I mean it as term of endearment. I’d call you Powergirl but I know that would not go over well with you for obvious reasons.
It’s strong, but that’s what it takes to make a counter strong.
Too many games the counters are garbage because the risk reward is too much against the counter.
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My defense is good? Is there another Saitsu I don’t know about?
I remember watching Flash Metroid stream a few weeks ago and he was like “yeah newer games dont have good counters”. I was like “uhhhh”
From my experience most counters are bad. Having a good one is extremely uncommon.
Yeah that’s why GGXRD Baiken is mad fair because XX Baiken is what happens when you make counters and sabakis OD. You make the neutral too easy to braindead disrespect.
J.Wong used Baiken in XX so yeah. Of course he only played anime to disrespect it.
SFV actually has some good ones. Kolin’s counter has the CC state on recovery but as said doesn’t have a ton of recovery so sometimes you can get away with it and the payoff is worth the risk because at minimum it fuckin’ hurts.
Abi’s VSkill also always seemed to be to be a solid tool, especially on that freakazoid. I used to forget it just because he has so much else going on why would he also have a parry/counter.
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Abi counter is slower (no EX version) and it also goes stand/crouch rather than mid/low. This means that it actually has much worse odds of working compared to Kolin. Most attacks are Mids and most lows suck, so that guess isn’t anywhere near as bad.
That’s OD. If half a second goes by and you haven’t punished her EX counter, you’re not getting a punish and she’s probably hitting buttons again.
Regular counters only have 5 extra frames of recovery
I am a gentle, delicate, feminine flower just like Xena!
It is just that stuff nowadays break apart under the softest touch!
For sure it is worse but again its a matter of kit. Its almost like they got to the point where they had to come up with his VSkill and they said “uh well he’s big what if he could block attacks with his hugeness?” He is still a limbs/grappler with access to some good armor so having a move like that even if it is a big call out is another tool in the shed.
And hey sometimes you see some of the Abi faithful do some cool shit with it.
I definitely hear you about the odds though. With Kolin it is more a matter of if they are gonna hit a button or not rather than having to really guess high/low in most situations. More clever players will go low to play the odds when they can but most online randos haven’t been particularly clever (not that my parry use has necessitated being particularly clever to counter).
Also regarding Abi.
3 frame parry with a guess element.
Vs
EX run>punch
Most of the time ex run is better. It has frame 3 armor so it blows up most of the same stuff. In a pressure situation anyways.
Boob Fighter 6 has good counters. Fuck, you can do counters out of hitstun in that game.
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Lol smash is gonna close Evo.
FGC is kill.
Kolin is busted. Now I don’t care if Neon beats me anymore. Going to need Ibuki for that shit any way.
That game was designed around counters and DOA/VF counters have always been strong. Kinda just easy mode to say 3d fighters have good counters.
Except for Tekken. They suck in Tekken (at least before 7) because you can just chicken them.
One of the guys I beat last weekend punched his stick so hard he got a gash on his arm. The stick was fine afterwards. Maybe you should get one of those.
They are bad in VF too.
We are forgetting the most silly of all counters.
The SF3 parry.
Evo is full corporate. Killing crack, putting in fake anime ballz crack, throwing in SamSho and other anime because fuck it let’s see and now Smash gonna close Evo. I’ve seen strippers sell out less than Evo.
Least we don’t have to wait as long to finish watching SF.
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It makes sense though. New Smash, vs mature SFV that also bleeds players to other 2D fighting games at the tournament.
I’m just sad Smash is beating Tekken, which doesn’t really have the obstacles SFV has.
You can chicken reversals. Parries / sabakis can’t be chickened. Plus there’s stuff like Jin’s parry that lets him just ignore blockstun.