Canny at worst will get knocked back to where she was in s2. She’s fine
Frost
December 23, 2018, 2:32pm
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no tick throw, no pressure after crlp
it hurts her a lot, she just has to reshape her entire close pressure now. Crlp is only really vs 4f characters. Still a top 10 pick easily, you could murder most of her kit and divekick and her buttons/walkspeed would keep her top tier.
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She can still do like c.lk, s.lk, s.lp bnbs so she can always keep you on downback regardless
Vhozite
December 23, 2018, 2:38pm
793
Her jab still chains to s.lp. Does that frame trap?
Cross quoting
“You can now 100% “take the throw” against Cammy. Very reduced pressure in the corner.” No man there is no pressure now. If they stand after the throw only st mk and cr hp reach. You can’t get anything off of that unless you have V-Trigger. Her corner pressure went from possibly the best in the game to non existent. What they did to Cammy’s throw would be the equivalent of removing Karin’s EX juggles. Imagine how she’d have to play if she only got one EX tenko and how much more work it would be for her to win. They basically removed Cammy’s gameplan of getting your opponent into the corner and conditioning them to tech so you could shimmy. Now she’s basically just a neutral character with up close pressure equivalent to Ryu or Sakura (both have 3 light confirms now) but with no overhead or fireball. She has worse normals and less damage than Karin, so the only reason to play her over Karin now is the DP, but if you can get good with anti airing with Karin it’s a no brainer who you should play.
Taking the throw means absolutely nothing now although you won’t really need to take the throw anyway because all of her strings can just be back dashed out of now with the cr lp nerf for less roll out damage and pressure. Basically if they see jab they can just mash jab like he mentioned in the video and it stuffs everything. If they see st lk, cr mp or st mp they can just back dash to safety. They’ll get rolled out at worse into a scramble state into which cammy’s 3 frame can no longer be used effectively in a scramble as it’s 0 on block. Like he said in the video you can just wait for them to wake up with cr lp and then mash jab after, so cr lp use is basically dead unless you do cr lp cancelled into st lp which is a very easy a predictable string to deal with as it’s not a frame trap until the cr mp is used after so again just mash jab after cr lp and you’re safe.
“The counter hit fishing string we’re all used to using, c LP, c MP, isn’t real and can be interrupted by 3f buttons now, am I right?” Correct. All of her strings from cr lp can now all be interrupted. cr lp into b mp, cr lp in cr mp, and cr lp into grab all lose to 3 frame normals. Also if you use cr lp after a divekick your turn is basically over. You will have to be +2 on divekick at best so you can use a st lp now to continue on block. Capcom wanted to be sure all the Cammy pressure people complained about was over once it was attempted. It is clear they only want her to be rewarded for hits confirms, and hit confirms alone. That is why all the cr lp CH combos still work, but only on hit. Problem is you can’t confirm a meaty cr lp, so you have to commit, but if you commit you get counter hit so why use cr lp over st lk anymore? It totally defeated the purpose of why they nerfed it in the first place per the developer notes as now all Cammy’s are just going to use st lk instead. With cr lp being +2 at least we had some options.
Cammy basically loses corner threat which is big.
So in short, a footsies rushdown character has been reduced to a worse Karin.
Why play her now, when Karin and even Falke offer everything she did, just better.
It’s Capcom giving in to all the crying, nothing less.
Capcom has shown often enough, that they only listen to the camp that crys the loudest.
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Definitely will see a lot more s.lk use. Corner throw stuff getting nerfed was a given
Cammy players saying Falke is a problem made my day.
‘Oh dear, I can’t get in with divekick for free, which direction on the stick am I supposed to press now?’
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Daemos
December 23, 2018, 3:12pm
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You make it sound like that is a bad thing.
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Karin is better. But cammy still looks top 10
Guys that destroyed me before, still destroy me with Cammy.
Honestly though, the damage G can do is pretty ridiculous.
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that was what they want us to think about but kinda unlikely.
Rose, Poison or Roxy, Makoto and Oro, Gorilla is coming.
Giving in to all the crying
Oh noes my top tier character that got buffed for two seasons got nerfs now! Clearly its Capcom just giving in to crybabies now the character is ruined!
Like cut me a break now
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I love the “worse Karin” bit, like, hello? Half the roster has been a worse Cammy for years
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Frost
December 23, 2018, 5:19pm
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Karin also doesn’t approach from the air.
Comparing Cammy to Karin is like comparing Laura to Alex.
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Such is the power of his presidentiality. He probably wouldn’t need to shut down the government just to get a wall built.
There have been flickers where I was tempted to use him and just shit damage everywhere. I don’t have that unga heart to make it work but I the VT1 shit sure is impressive.
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It’s their difference, Karin kill you from ground and Cammy from air, but at the end they’ll trying to make you guess about the throw. In S3 Cammy was a bit too strong on the ground for an aerial character like her, now Capcom did a good job to differentiate the two.
