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It’s more that having major unbalanced seems really old school and lazy. It’s 2018, it’s not hard to balance a fighter with so many options these days.

I mean having a trigger or not having a trigger is a really simple thing to fix.

Tokido had trouble stopping Rog/Mika/Urien dash let alone their fast EX moves/Mika dropkick. They’re like 16/17f dashes and idek the frame startup on the EX moves. Nobody is reacting to those.

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Who needs reactions in a fighting game pfft!!!

Hp + HK

Idk. They gotta decide what they want Ryu and Ken to be. I thought good regular fireballs on a motion character were out of the question too until Sagat came. He disproves that theory.

If Ryu and Ken are supposed to be rushdown characters tho, then Capcom needs to buff their rushdown tools. For all the good positives you can say about them, Ryu is bottom tier and Ken is several steps down the ladder from characters that have a similar playstyle.

Thank flowtron for decent interesting

And no one was expecting mecha abigail was coming. Take note of that.

As someone who has played Guile in SFV before, he is extremely boring to play. Character strength is not the only factor in determining who we play. People here like a good variety of characters.

On the other hand Guile is super common online from my experience. Him, Akuma, and Cammy.

Also i want some consistency with the rules for vtriggers. There’s too many terrible 3 bar vtriggers and fucking amazing 2 bar vtriggers. Most of the time those amazing 2 bar triggers end up on top/high tier characters and to no ones suprise the bad/mediocre 3 bar triggers are on mid/low tier.

so much this, Guile has everything a lot of people here want for Ryu and Sagat so why not just picking him? It’s not like he’s so much more boring than them

what irks me is that SFV has pretty much adopted a f2p business model when it comes to characters, events and skins and yet it doesn’t have the huge support in terms of balance changes that most of those games have. I mean, we’re in 2018 why do Ryu, Alex or Vega players have to wait years before seeing their favourite characters getting better?

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I want sweep xx VTC gone in S4 personally. I want sweeps to have more neutral utility outside of only being pressed when you have VTC available for knockdown/block advantage.

It’s real fucking stupid that you can just wait for a slight walk and then throw and forget.

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There’s a difference between something being impossible and something being reliable. Is it impossible to punish EX moves in SFV? No. Is it reliable to try and stop EX moves? Fuck no. Hold that block when your opponent forces his turn, an then he gets another turn, fucks up, you both trade, except he recovers faster from the trade which means he regains his turn.

FUCK BALROG A GNAKGNAKGNAGKANG

PS: Do not ready up again Diamond Balrog players from Witchatakindonko, Norway.

They won’t take sweep trigger out. You just killed half the shit tier characters.

I agree that sweeps should be better though , sweeps should be 7-8 frame. Doesn’t feel right playing with really shit low buttons.

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It’s all on Capcom, probably they’ve lost their way trying to please everyone. Ryu and Ken weren’t made with zoning purposes in mind for SFV and I agree they better have improvements in their up-close game, same story for Sakura and Sagat. Guile is exceptionally strong, but I doubt they have in mind a character that good on both sides of the screen. I’m ok with improving offense for some and improving zoning on few others, but not both. I don’t want to see Sagat and Guile just swapping their spot on the tier list.

We have to thank all the casuals insightful requests for this, they wanted diversity. Now some characters have more difficulties building V-meter 'cuz their V-Skill is trash and even when they can pop VT is shitty anyway. Fang VTs combined aren’t good like just one VT of a top tier character, just saying.

For some it’s the best way to safely use their VT, imagine Cody without EX Zonk VTC.

That ain’t a sweep, it’s not just a straight nerf to sweeps I’m asking.

I’d want sweeps to be faster, only allow quickrise, and be less punishable. Maybe even back to ancient times when sweeps weren’t this linear punish.

The problem is the pushback in this is deliberately not meant to push you away.

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So basically only Karin has a cool sweep ?

Birdie, Karin

some other characters have weird sweeps like Cody and Blanka

I still don’t understand why Americans love bitching so much.

Sagat fries Kolin with a solid FB game but once that gets shut down its party time. B.HK is fantastic tool for shutting down zoning if Sagat starts to get too comfortable playing SF2. The biggest issue for Kolin is that outside of VT2 she doesn’t have a braindead way to brute force herself in and you def gotta play the walk and block game before the SFV portion starts. I don’t think Gat straight loses the MU but I fee like after I settled in with his play style I didn’t find it as cumbersome.

Also I’m hyped for Season 4 I’m ready for the patch note melt down.

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It’s the same reason people who want longer button characters don’t play Birdie. Those types of characters design and play style wise are still only for certain people despite the options they have. Kyle is the only guy here who even plays Guile and the guy who left recently and Pookie were the only people that bothered playing Birdie. Birdie especially isn’t waifu or shoto enough for the people here.