I really dont push enough buttons in neutral to be good at sf5,
I also push buttons on defense way to much.
I suck at teching throws in 5
other than that my defense is pretty solid.
I feel like I’m still trying to play sf5 like traditional sf5 but that doesn’t happen until you hit a certain plateau that even after 3 years of playing I just haven’t hit and might not.
I’m just going to have to embrace my scum bagginess and play the top tier characters that fit my style and the low tier ones that do also.
It sounds silly, good can still be good in SF5. The weird thing is that bad things are really good in SF5. This is a game where rashid doing lp mixer, being negative upclose to you and then doing a DP is a real mix up.
I don’t know why it is that way, but there are a lot of random wacky things that are much better options than they would in other games. Could be because forcing one situation constantly is a lot easier in this game. Its possible to create a playstyle around making your opponent choose wrong in a awkward situation i.e. the aforementioned Rashid situation.
I’ll get on writing about the TO stuff in a little bit. Before I start, any of you guys have any questions involving getting things started at a local level? Actual questions, curiosities, things to avoid etc. Just need things to juggle the brain and help writing.
It is definitely the same in application. Think the difference was in the meter building and the importance of FADC for Rufus.
You were way less likely to get Messiah kicked after a bad divekick than you are to get DPed after an LP mixer. Saving meter is just less important in this game. think that’s probably why it is more likely to happen.
He does but Guile is a lot better off throwing booms to mount an offense than to build a defense. The +2 is super real with that man.
You can use proximity as a clue but for the most part it is a guess. You can delay tech but that can be a dangerous habit to build since it can be beaten in ways that hurt. Backdashing is also an option to dodge the throw and possible get air reset out of a button, but like many things in this game its a risk/reward guess on defense.
Not that I’m an expert on applying any of this but this is how I understand it.
Big 'ol post from playing this weekend. Gonna slap spoiler tags around this because scrolling. Appreciate anyone who reads my battle log posts like this.
Summary
Got a chance to play for a few hours over the weekend. Definitely slow to re-acclimate after not having played for a week or so and even when I did get back into the groove I never really was able to focus in on the game for whatever reason. Not sure if I didn’t get enough coffee or what but this game is not kind when your eyes start to glaze over during matches. As much as it is shaving years off their lives I understand why some pros are pounding Red Bull in between rounds.
Ended the session slightly down - 18-21 for games and 8-9 for sets - but I was at least able to end on a good note. I still need to go back and watch some replays for analysis, but just going off of what I remember and was thinking at the time:
I still need to work on how I handle myself on defense. I clam up a little too often which leads to me eating too much “fake” pressure. Part of that is playing more and learning when I can press and when I can’t, part of it is also getting over my reticence to hit buttons in the scramble. Start off the game hitting too many buttons, then transition to not hitting enough buttons, now gotta find the middle ground.
Need to work on using the right pokes. I feel like I’m a bit better about recognizing spaces where my buttons aren’t going to work. But I need to use st.LK and st.HP more, and more importantly I need to work more on buffering st.LK into Bolt for counter-poking and st.HP into Avante or EX Clap to make that button more of a mix up. Right now I tend to auto-pilot too much with that button which leads to fewer conversions and me fucking up CC hits.
Need to work on Avante/dashes after AA’ing for mix ups. Right now its almost always st.MP into walk up something which is way too honest (at least I have command grab for that mix up but a cross under is better for positioning as well).
Need to use command grabs a bit more in general. I’m conservative with them which is an okay starting point but I need to use them a bit more often. Even if the oki sucks compared to Mika it is still better oki than her normal throw (so far as I know anyways).
I’m definitely still weak to players that are really aggressive. Defensive issues and Laura not having any options other than the core options make it so that I can get steamrolled more than I like. Current plan is to try and learn more about what I can do when (jab, backdash, walk out) and not be quite so scared on defense (which seems to be what unga players flourish on).
I am free as fuck to overheads. There are like two in the game that I can consistently react to. Need to practice this a lot more. I’ve practiced reacting to Urien’s overhead target combo which actually came up and saved me a bit but I need to be better about handling overheads in general.
I am also bad about pressuring too often or too predictably. -2 move > EX reversal works on me like every time. Its always a guess, but I’ve run into some people that do it pretty consistently and I need to be better about recognizing that a) it is a thing, and b) to then bait that periodically.
Need more match up experience. I keep murdering Akumas because I’ve fought him a fair bit, but if a Dhalsim or a Karin shows up I lose to really basic stuff. Nothing to do about that but play more.
Overall I need to continue to work on playing grounded and feeling comfortable there. I could definitely tell that I was feeling nervous about playing the ground game in the beginning which lead to me giving up damage and positioning with bad jumps and ground movement. I feel like I’m bad at the ground game (and Laura’s little arms don’t help) which makes me do the normal stuff that avoids it, which doesn’t make me any better at the ground game, so I feel like I’m bad at it, etc, etc. Just gotta tough it out and get comfortable on the ground and hitting buttons. Most of my successful games were due to recognizing and shifting to that.
I want to try to get in more games in the week and half or so leading up to EVO. Not that I think I’ll do great there or anything; I’d just rather go in practiced than not. Plus all that experience helps keep me moving forward towards Platinum. I’m definitely not going to make my original goal of Plat by EVO but that is fine - I figured that wasn’t likely - so I’m going to readjust and try to get Plat by my birthday in late October. Keep on plugging along in Ranked when I can.
Thought so. I just asked to see if I’m missing something. I get really nervous when lying down and someone is in my face, and I think he will throw me and I try to tech way too much, leading to me getting hit and eating a combo. Recently I’ve began more and more to just jump or backdash away. I can still get hit but it isn’t as painful.
Umm, that situation can be found in all SFs. You are seriously complaining about a basic mind game trick. Wow. You must be one those that complains if someone throws you to much. Probably never played in an arcade, where real SF took place.
