Super Turboooooooo
Yeah complaining about Cammy being good is like complaining about Akuma being good. They’re just historically good at SF (and have been good in vs/crossover titles).
When I say nerf Cammy
I mean nerf her lewdness
It’s the only proper way to fix her
:^)
I don’t like how Ryu can’t handle Akuma, it just doesn’t feel right
Also who remembers when Juri was top tier 
Nothing wrong with Cammy in my book. I never even run into her online that much…
Fighting nothing but Guile’s tonight. Mad annoying.
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Cammy will receive the Karin treatment, the latter was good also at playing SF, right? Watch
like with many other characters, they made a MASSIVE amount of Ryu changes in S2, to the point his change log takes up 5 pages in my browser
granted - not all of the changes were very significant and some of them were even buffs. but when you take a functional character and make a hundred changes to them the end result can be a dysfunctional character, even if the changes are individually small. I’m glad Capcom have become more conservative with the change logs because fighting games are already complex enough that I don’t think anybody really predict what’s going to happen when you make that many changes.
oh also, the meterless DP nerf hurt Ryu worse than the others due to his gameplan
Wonder where people will put Laura in their next tierlist considering everyone was saying a character who can literally wreck any other character in 10 seconds with two good reads was ‘low tier’.
If this was another SF I’d agree that consistency (neutral control, all-around moveset) was more important than 10-second comeback potential but, well, it isn’t.
I can’t see why people dislike Cammy. She’s one of the few characters that mostly plays like an oldschool SF character.
Oh it’s simple.
You’re an old ass complaining about anything without a break.
At least Jin knows what he’s talking about and is competent, you just think you are and thats the probleme.
You’re like an old man version of Frost.
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Have some more garbage to sift through
I think because big part of the rest of the cast don’t have the normals to play SF also. Atm the Cammy hate becomes a meme, but she isn’t annoying/retarded like the other 4 characters up there in the tier list. Cammy is strong because the others are weak, that’s it. Some pros are all in the hate train to shift the focus on her more than theirs mains. Infiltration dropped an hour long video about Cammy, meanwhile he justified Menat BS saying she’s hard to use, lol. Fang isn’t easy either, nor Zeku or Juri, but it’s hard to see them played competitively, no one was able to use them from pools to top 8 at any CPT tournament, guess why?
Last year people complaints makes Karin nerfed hard even if only Punk was able to win with her, Cammy’s destiny is already decided. She’s present in every top 8, but we can say the same for Guile,Akuma,Menat and Ibuki. We all know these characters plus Cammy will stay in every top 8 until next season, with that in mind I can stop watching tournaments until January.
That’s Capcom game balance for us.
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I can see season 4 becoming season 2 all over again. Complain about characters with more traditional SF tools. Get those characters nerfed to low mid. Let the round thieves reign. Then complain that the game isn’t real “street figher”. Rinse repeat.
I think if you put Season 1 Chun and Nash into Season 3, they would still lose to the current top tiers.
Complaining got to an all time high. People wanted technical characters, but now that Menat is top tier, and even Jwong can’t optimize her, they don’t like it.
But I agree people have the reason to complain with 3 seasons of Capcom doing questionable decisions balance wise.
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Easy way to fix the balance for Season 4: since people have been complaining about DLC characters being too weak in Season 3, just make all the Season 4 new characters broken af.
People will be happy as the new DLC characters will be high tier just like they wanted, Capcom’s developers will be happy as they will have no need to balance the rest of the cast that has just been made irrelevant by OP C. Viper and Oro, and Capcom’s stock holders will be happy because everyone will have to buy Character Passes to stay competitive!
With such an amazing plan, what could possibly go wrong?
Yes what could go possibly wrong with a Plan like that.
Filipinoman time ago said Menat isn’t that hard to use, all depends on how much you want to prioritize swag over efficiency. Wong can’t do what Sako or Infiltration do, but his gameplan is super efficient and he can go far with that.
SFV now has an established meta, Capcom need to work around it. The top 5 characters all have good AA, good normals and good VTs, the differences are all on their gameplan. Guile and Menat are neutral monsters, their VTs make them complete (Menat gains momentum+damage, Guile can keep the opponents away even more+damage), Akuma gets a power boost and oki, Ibuki can put you into the blender even more. Cammy VT is fair compared to what the others can do, but she has a superior neutral with the ability to apply pressure better than everybody. The rest of the cast lacks in something, who has a good neutral don’t have a momentum VT,etc. The perfect balance is impossible to reach, but it’s hard to win at high level without one of these 5 characters.
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Most of the DLC characters release held back and get buffed at the end of the season
Pretty sure they try hard to not make a DLC character needs nerfs on release
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So you’re mad that SF5 is ass? That’s fine. I can say SF5 is garbage all day every day because at the end of the day that opinion doens’t matter much. What matters is that I keep grinding away at my city and growing the numbers in my scene.
If you take issue with the reasons I’ve said this game is ass, by all means give it a shot. But is kinda silly that you’re going to say I’m just randomly complaining when I’m giving gameplay examples and then say DevilJin is a paragon of good posting when that he just used “She’s a ninja” as an argument for something.