I watched one match but I forgot to comment on it. Especially since the thread was going on about other stuff. I did notice from the first video that you went full fundamentals, no trigger again lol. When I watch the other videos I’ll have some stuff.
This! Pertho sounds like an oldfag that’s mad about SFV because he can’t hang. YEAH I SAID IT NIGGA!
If you still getting got by the minus 2 “mix up” just let go of controller and play Smash.
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I’m saying this the entire time!
Outside of the smash part.
Ryan Hart is in my pool in Tekken 7 at Headstomper this weekend.
Tips plz
U gonna lose
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It’s been months and DJ has yet to accept my CFN inv 
I’ll just assume you haven’t seen it. We definitely gotta run some sets soon. I need that Falke experience.
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To be fair he does have a point. But, i have been hit by invincible bs when i thought it was my turn, enough in other games. I shrugged it off when i got hit by it in this game. And it was usually cause i was not present minded, paying attention or playing auto.
I mean he’s right, and you’re kinda dumb for trying to refute his point.
He never said -2 wasn’t a pseudo mix-up in older games, he simply said the scenario is easy to create within SFV, and as such - is prevalent within certain characters designs.
But like, your reading comprehension is about as strong as a blind toddler.
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My plan is getting out of pools in losers.
I might be able to do that actually. I wouldn’t bet on it, but it could happen. Ryan’s the only known name.
He flatout said it’s only a thing in SFV and it wasn’t a thing in other games.
People didn’t do such dumb things in older games.
He wanted examples of people doing it in other games, because IT WASN’T A THING IN OTHER GAMES!
I know you’re dumb, but you cannot impossible that dumb.
I generely don’t care about this nonsense, it’s Perthos behavior that pisses me off.
" I’m old, everything I say is written in stone and you have to accept it. "
Nope, he definitely didn’t say it’s exclusive to V. You probably just wanted someone to argue with, cause as much as Pertho can be a dick, what he said was completely reasonable and you were just spiteful in response to him asking questions at first.
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God do I really have to start this from scratch again to make even you slowpoke understand this.
Fine.
Here is the entire argument chain:
Pertho: Doing DP after being -2 is core gameplay of SFV!
Cipher: Not as much as in other games.
Pertho: No, it’s more presented in SFV than in any other game!
Cipher: No, it’s not.
Pertho: Yes it is.
Cipher: No it’s not
Jin: Words of wisdome. gets ignored by Pertho
Pertho: yes it is.
Frost: pertho is right. is what he says while running trough the house
Cipher: no it’s not.
Perthos: yes it is.
Cipher: Fuck that shit, I don’t talk to walls.
Frost: He is right!
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Welp, I did say your reading comprehension was bad. I literally just quoted him saying it was present in older games when you stated he said it wasn’t.
You do you man, you write your own stories at this point xd.
Also, he wasn’t arguing. You’re the only dude forcing aggressive language on people.
Sociopath vibes.
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Yeah, even Jin roll canceled past the post detailing why this is way more common in SF5 than in other SF games.
The Jin examples from old SF games were shaky at best but lacking in analogous application for the most part. Most SF games aren’t forcing this same set of interactions on as big as scale as SF5.
People can feel any which way about it but its just part of this series. Getting good at managing the psychology of the -2 from whichever situation your character forces it in is part of the game.
Old situations that come up a lot are things like Chun has you cornered and is in Kara throw range, same with Rog in ST, or Akuma’s silliness in Vanilla SF4. In 5, a large amount of the cast has a way to end up at -2 in front of an opponent and a good chunk of those characters have EX reversals.
Whether or not you want to take advantage of the psychology of the situation based on your character its up to you. Regardless of a players choice on the matter, a large amount of the cast can force the -2 mix up in a way that wasn’t really a workable tool in previous games. While conceptually it exists in basically every 2D game, this one creates an environment where it is repeatable multiple times a round.
So yeah, its kind of an SF5 thing.
Spoilered for those with reading impairment.
Edit, I don’t know how spoilers work in this nonsense. 
lol how can you quote something and still completely miss it.
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I think Pertho mentioned it already too, but one of the bigger contributions that is SFV specific is the input priority and the really big buffer system.
Most players who were sharp were good at pressing reversal buttons in the past games, but it has never been so easy to take a situation like -2 and stop the other person from doing a normal past it. In that sense, this facilitates the need to enforce the -2 mixup of invulnerable move or not because without it, your pressure won’t be nearly as strong because most characters (frame data is almost identical across the cast with a few exceptions) can blow right past the -2.
Older games just would have specials be super safe or timing a reversal normal more difficult, so it’s less common because there are more options at play.
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Gotta use the “Hide Details” option from the menu.
Sample
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That was @Skeigh.
TBH I hadn’t considered the role of the buffer on defense until that moment. That was a great observation.
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Also @TWINBLADES
Shut your forrest muppet gums the hell up. I bet that super fraudmond ass is still doing the same 3 block strings from when Kolin was first released. Only thing you beat consistently is your router.
Skynet is gonna round you up with the way you physically abuse technology. You know your ass is so free that you would post your lounges on Craigslist personals and let people go to town on you.
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