SFV Lounge: Cammy at the Falken bottom, Makoto is in final phases, Leo Alex is broken

Also I really like the idea behind SFV Ken, his combos are glorious. Sadly he’s also a crazy fuck bait and he’s got a lot wrong with hi.
The base idea was nice, just poorly executed.

So the difference between a good rework and a bad one is just frame data ? And not the abilities themselves ?

The Sakura thirst can overwhelm even the Satsui no Hado.

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Bad reworks can exist, but like I wouldn’t say any in V are bad conceptually. The only reason I’ve seen mass dislike towards any rework in question is usually just because it’s bad in tiers, which is usually down to data. The design itself is solid.

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lol I’ll try this OBS thing tmr. I fried my brains trying to figure out how to use this Nvidia thing.

Anyway here are the 2 FT5s with Highland recorded at 1440P!! My Cammy is so…urgh. Bad hit confirms, button mashing, can’t DP to save my life.

Edmund “Shin Twinblades” vs “Frosty’s Dad” Highlandfireball

Watch and give input so that I can improve and get out of Gold rank. -_-
I can take criticisms! lol.

Set A

Set B

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I actually agree with you.

But there were pages of posts arguing the opposite position.

I’m also of the opinion that a rework can be good even if it’s not powerful. But as said before, I personally like the reworks.

Man I remember when you sniped me on CFN outta nowhere and for months I thought that was Twin. Don’t think I’m ever forgetting your confession.

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I think its more having a clear idea of what you’re aiming for, then following through. Juri and Vega feel like they have no clear direction for the rework or if they did then Capcom got cold feet before finishing.

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^This 100%
Some WW characters are too old on their concepts, they can always work on them, but it’s hard to make them fresh without making them different. Gief is the OG grappler, but I loved how Capcom makes Hugo fun to use even for people like me who don’t love grapplers in general, Hugo has more layers than Gief for sure.

When I named Ryu, Ken, Chun and Akuma I’ve named the characters who will be in every SF, like it or not.

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Jesus I uploaded the videos in 1440p but it’s showing up as 360p.

The vids need time to process, give it 30min

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Claw’s redesign is nice and proper. He still has at least 20 years of time to pay for his ST crimes by being bad at current SF games.

To be fair… Hugo has a lot of problems.

Abigail is a much better attempt. But he was probably overturned at first, and then, because he is in a game with Gief… they could let him just eclipse Gief.

I knew you were gonna shill Abigail i fucking knew it. That character is and will always be trash.

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Vega’s aim was mainly for control of character, Vega is a very mobile character so charge made no sense, so they adjusted him to motion. His main issue is that he’s a stance character now and claw is still breakable. I personally think EX Barca should still hit crouchers regardless of it being motion also.

The rework had intent, pulls it off quite well. I just think Vega is like always gonna be bad unless he has some really dumb shit.

Juri got reworked to be focused more on walkdown/rushdown. Only issue she really suffers from are that the charges aren’t worth it so in spending them she either has to give up her turn or ground to recover them, which doesn’t work well when she can’t end a combo early to nab a store and maintain momentum. Which makes the stores not worth it.

One or two changes could make Juri super fucking strong. Tbh she can be really problematic already in certain MUs, she’s a hard character to cover for some.

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Why is he trash exactly? Because he was too good? I don’t disagree, but the design is a lot better than Gief.

Also, the fact that you knew I would say that kinda means my point is obvious.

Giant archetype with trash hitboxes and armoured run to unga through neutral? Yeah, Abi’s design is dogshit lmao.

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I honestly prefer how the comics handled Ryu and Sak’s connection compared to the games:


When Ryu got kidnapped by the Secret Society, Sak was willing to do anything to save him, without any help:






It’s just better overall imo.

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Abigail is a big body brawler with a command grab. He is not a grappler.
Even his CA isn’t a grab, ffs.

And his design is awful.

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Hugo didn’t have fucked up hitboxes/hurtboxes and a ton of armor moves to be legit, to me that’s enough to describe what kind of a mistake Abigail is.