Do I really have to?
I will if there is absolutely no better alternative. However, there is still the possibility of Superguns.
And as some people have already pointed out in this thread; Arcade version does NOT equal console version, they are practically two seperate games. I would only cope with the console version as an absolute last resort, IMO.
Just wondering- what arcade version os SFA3 is considered the standard in Japan? Upper, or the original?
Original. Even without the glitches that many liked, if upper had maintained the speed of A3, I think it would’ve been given more attention.
Apoc.
There’s a RAM cart that doubles as a converter to let you play import games, and also doubles as a 1MB/4MB RAM cart, so you can play the SNK games and Marvel Super Heroes (which usually require the 1MB) as well as the later Capcom games which use the 4MB. One I had was Ultra Madness…replay…something or other.
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Mine didn’t have any cool artwork and went by a slightly different name, so I can’t vouche for the legitimacy of this actual sale, but you get the idea.
And there’s worse things than a tourney on Saturn pads.
Glad to see people are finally trying to get the ball rolling on sfa3!!!
Anyway, my brother shinobi and I have the sfa3 Saturn version. Once we find and dust off everything, what specific things should we look for? We also have the MAME version, so we can compare if necessary. If you want us to do VCs though, you’re going to have to wait until we get good enough 
Like what?
Would people actually come to a tourney with Saturn? Would EVO endorse it? Seriously? Can we ask now? Would international players actually want to play? Would everyone who wants to play in EVO now have to buy Saturns?
I’m not whinging or anything, but… seriously. The best that could happen? Some semi-official side tournament at EVO and hope the international players will want to play on the Saturn version?
Seems like a bit of a cop out to me, you have to start up your own tournies when there are few SFA3 machines internationally, and the average joe isn’t going to have a Super Gun set up at his house for his friends to play at. The Saturn version is rare and of dubious arcade quality. Every other game at EVO has fairly easy to find arcade cabinet to practice on in the arcade. Except maybe VF4, which doesn’t make sense.
Just seems like God wants to kill SFA3.
Anyways sorry I’m just venting a bit. It’s like telling ST players to play on SNES version cause all the other versions are too hard to get anymore.
If someone could find out what the max range of sim’s RH is so we can verify that it goes through people for no reason on saturn it would help.
If someone could go test some rolento VCs to see if they work on saturn it would help. IF someone could even post some that would be a good start.
If someone could find some saturns it would help, i heard the first version had a easy swap trick or something? I bought a Zero 3 from ebay, but they made a mistake and it was the psx version so i didn’t get it lol.
I have 2 old modded saturns sitting around, plus an extra 1-4 MB action replay cart. Too bad I only have 1 copy of Zero3… I have a friend who has an extra sealed copy, though. My MAS stick is Saturn compatible as well. I went to a lot of trouble to be able to play the best home version, and it was sooo worth it.
Some Old Skool is better than no Old Skool
its easy to say when one plays st on a snes pad… not everyone feels that there shouldnt be a scene but i think for bigger tourneys we should strive supergun
i mean hell we had super gun this year and there wasnt even a tourney! :encore: :karate:
Actually, if given the choice between SF2: Special Champion for the Genesis and no old skool, I would take the Genesis anyday
->Side note: I never have played nor do I own a Genesis for that matter…true perspective.
At the end of the day, it really just boils down to this: Do you still want to play your genre of SF or not? I personally choose to still play my genre of SF, regardless of how nerfed it might be.
Oh yea, you can use sticks on a SNES btw…it’s called PSX-Snes adapter :tup:
IIRC it would pass through characters depending on height. Like shotos and Chun Li it would, but not Rose because she’s slightly taller. It’s been like 2 years since I’ve really sat down and played the Saturn version though.
AFAIK all combos work on all versions, with the exception of Guy, since you can’t combo his bushin flip grab move in the corner on the Arcade/Saturn versions. And Balrog headbutt combos, obviously.
It’d actually be closer to telling them to play the Dreamcast version. People have been practicing 3S on Dreamcast for years now, even with the differences, if they didn’t have an arcade near them. People can practice on emulators if they want, and they might have an arcade machine with A3 in it somewhere near close. Hell, they can practice on the PSX version and not be in too bad of shape. Back before the more recent crop of consoles, people DID use the 16-bit home versions to play and practice on.
My point was, the Saturn version is really, really close to the arcade version, and if pads are acceptable for any tournament, ever, it would be the Saturn pads (though of course there are sticks for the Saturn or converters or whatever). Superguns better? Of course. But Saturn is easier for everyone involved, and will still work. I’m not talking about having A3 be the main event at Evo or anything, I just want people to play. And if you set it up and make a tourney for it, people will play. Working on getting it up on the big screen so we can all get rocked by Japan again can wait till later.
This is weak how some people are “I won’t play it unless it is arcade perfect” or “I won’t play if we won’t have Japanese competition.” In the end, if you like the game, find a way to play it, because it’s fun. I don’t need Japanese players to have fun…and I can’t understand how anyone else would.
I’d play HF on the SNES if the arcade version wasn’t available, in a second. At the end of the day, the fact that Dhalsim’s standing roundhouse works a bit differently isn’t the end of the world…
I would also point out that if you have an A3 tourney, not many US players have A3 arcade machines they can even practice on anyway. The vast majority would have to practice on a home version.
Edit: The bottom line is, make some forward progress. Either round up superguns, round up saturns, or decide the DC/PSX version is good enough, or use emulators…whatever, just go with something other than “God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Neither God nor SRK is going to bail you out. If you want to play A3, make it happen.
I would also point out that XvSF, A1, A2, COTA and MvSF are good Saturn translations as well. (Unfortunately, MSH really sucks…) Whenever my friends and I have little informal tournaments the Saturn gets the most use by far.
Yeah fugde it, let’s play a3 on DC! I’m down
If Saturn is as good as people are saying it is, then I say go for it. I just want to be sure is all.
People should practice on computer emulators… It’s alot easier to get then saturns and you just need to buy a controller.
thank goodness there are saine people left.
cosign
Apoc.
Weren’t we talking about local tournies? Not practice? Could a Local Tourney get a lawsuit for using emulators?
Practice for what tournament? If we don’t get through the discussion of how one would go about having A3 tournaments, then I don’t see there being tournament worth practicing for. Thats why there is a saturn discussion. If the saturn version is acceptable, then most people would probably practice on psx/pc/dc/gba/whatever, so i’m not too worried about that, the main problem is how to have the tournament itself.
Another solution would be to find a way to configure buttons on a ps2->jamma convertor. That would solve the evo problem i guess, other tournies would just have to have A3 without advertising it.