Nice… South Car also holds A3 tourneys. They just need to announce it at evo and you’ll see A3 tourneys will be popping up all over the place including ECC. Even Chunkis said that the entire europe SF scene decides what games to play based on what’s going to be at evo, and you know they love their Alpha 3. It was their highest-turnout game at Absolution 2k4.
A3 at Evo. New avs coming shortly.
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I find it ironic that one post using one sentence (well, two broken with a dot dot dot), is more constructive towards the get Alpha 3 to EVO goal than pages upon pages of rambling.
Props to you for actually doing something.
It wasn’t, 3s had more entrants than A3.
As stated before, the first order of business for the A3 community is to set a standard. Choose either the Saturn, DC or PSX version. Can’t lobby to get a game back into a major if you don’t even have a set standard. And no…acquiring boards and renting storage space for cabinets is not an option.
Come to think of it…the Saturn route would be tough as well. Expecting peepz to purchase an import Saturn and import A3 is unrealistic. Sure maybe 30 guys total will do it, but the scene will never grow. Well, looks like its the PSX or DC kids 
The reason ST is in EVO and A3 isn’t even though A3 has always more players joining up is simply because… ummm cause Daigo still plays ST and ST is in SBO?? :karate: :lol:
When’s the next A3 evo tourney not held at Anderson? Anderson’s a bit far (I’m at Sumter)
I need to see how well my A-Bison has rusted.
Daigo would join A3 at evo (he plays the game casual at More) and maybe even get in the finals with bas… now that would be an amazing final.
Here’s a random question that will probably get me flamed back to the stone age.
Is the PSX version more balanced than the Saturn version? Its really too bad that people hate it so much, since PSX version is a greatest hit, and SFZ3 for saturn is so scarce.
And i’ve read the previous pages of complaining, so I know why people don’t like it. I don’t need it explained again.
I agree with you on principle, however I think we do need to take into consideration the fact that unlike CvS2/MvC2, A3 had a scene that was pretty much based on the arcade version.
I feel the saturn version can serve as the official version because people can at least practice on emu or saturn. This is of course assuming the saturn version is acceptable. Consider that i’ve been waiting forever for a true answer to that for about… oh… forever now (and I’m the one actually considering adding A3 to a tournament lineup!), not if it’s merely acceptable, but whether it will serve the players as well as 3s/mvc2/cvs2 on console will.
The ironic thing is that people provide no help, then if i said fuck it A3 is on saturn, people would be crying that i didn’t ask them. It’s lose lose it seems.
I believe that A3’s design is better suited for competition than XSF. But I believe that the A3 community allowed the XSF community to become more competitive then them, when they could have easily brought A3 to the same or greater level. The fact that A3 players let XSF beat them is telling.
Honestly I don’t see why it’s a big deal, cannons can’t stop me from having A3 at evo anyway. The only reason i wouldn’t have A3 there is because the mention of A3 now means to me taking advil trying to make it through another Apoc post about how he doesn’t get the tournament scene and how he continues to ignore people trying to help A3.
I offered at least an attempt at a solution, several of them, and was basically told that what the ‘community’ does is irrelavant. IMO we should be at the implementation stage, not still talking about step 0. So have it your way, we’ll keep changing evo without you, and you’ll keep crying to the cannons like they had something to do with it. Of course if you want to join the party your welcome to.
In reality they are a good filter, people who don’t ‘get it’ tend to complain to them, then the community doesn’t have to deal with it. I feel kinda bad that that’s the position SRK is in, but hopefully it’s only for a while until we get other groups to the level SRK is at. They seem to be hanging in there.
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Nevermind.
I don’t think Saturn should really be an option. Even though people say it’s the closest to arcade, that doesn’t really mean much, as there are still major differences (the most major being, of course, the nerfing of one of the most important characters in the game). It’s like some bizarre compromise between arcade and PSX/DC that won’t really satisfy anyone. (Not to mention that it would probably be as difficult to find as an arcade machine.)
If A3 is going to go console, it must be understood that, no matter which version is chosen, it’s going to differ significantly from the arcade, and players would be forced to adjust and even relearn a lot. In that case, my vote would go for PSX, simply because it’s the most cheaply and widely available.
I don’t see how sim being different equates to choosing psx over saturn. Maybe i missed it, but i haven’t seen anyone quantify what excatly this difference is, people say priority and such, but that’s not a real explaination, did the hitboxes move, do certain combos not work on saturn that work on arcade? What is the excat scope of the problem.
Beyond that IIRC saturn has other things that PSX/DC do not have, IMO those all should be laid out and explored (if they haven’t been already, if they have, just link me), so we can evaluate 1) what impact console A3 will have, and 2)whether it is feasable to introduce console A3 vs just letting it be for now. I don’t see how we can be making a conclusion until all the specifics are out there. I am not in favor of relearning A3 unless it’s the only option, and we haven’t gotten that far.
I haven’t played A3 on Saturn in a while ago, Dhalsim definitely feels different, whatever that means. For example his standing roundhouse doesn’t seem as effective overall, slower or smaller hitbox or something like that…
Regardless…the options are arcade, Saturn, PSX or Dreamcast…pick one and go with it. There are pros and cons to each…if the answer is really that the arcade is too hard to do and the other versions aren’t good enuogh, then let A3 ride off into the sunset. I’m not sure what else people are looking for.
The only difference I remember bewtween arcade and saturn was the slowdown during Rolento’s VCs…other than that, I don’t remember the japanese telling me about any other differences in terms of hitboxes and priorities.
Uhmm Daigo doesn’t play Alpha 3 seriously now. Yeah, he plays casually(which is even rare). When Daigo plays Alpha 3 it’s considered an event among Alpha 3 players.
Anyway, the opinion stated before this is from my Japanese friend who is an Alpha 3 fanatic.
Finally, a sensible post
Man, Capcom isn’t making anymore 2D fighters really, and it’de be a damn shame to neglect the Alpha series entirely.
Well then…
You know, it’s funny, people are complaining about the money aspect, and a Saturn costs in the 10-20 dollar range. You can get 5 Saturns going at once for 100 bucks!
If someone really cares, they can spend the whopping $20 bucks for a Saturn, round up a copy of A3, and just try it for themselves…in the time people have spent posting here they could have done that…
It looks like Zero 3 is a bit on the expensive side, but you’re still talking Saturn + game for less than $100, assuming you can’t find it at any place cheaper than Ebay.
The bottom line is that someone needs to DO something, rather than just say something…
Well assuming the Saturn version is near arcade perfect then it should be ok to use that. Do we know if the Saturn memory expansion cartridge is needed in order to play with no frame loss?