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El Fuerte’s combo is a loop, not an infinite because it’s just a long combo that happens to be the same thing over and over again. I think the longest it can get is
Fierce, run, stop x 5 or 6 times, possibly ending with the slide, opponent gets dizzied, LV3 saving attack into fierce, stop, run 5 or 6 times. Then it ends. Some characters won’t even get dizzied after the first rep, and El Fuerte has to smack them a couple more times. I think it’s a pretty good way to balance his character out.
Yeah, I mean if it was an infinite the guys you see doing it would be doing an infinite, not ending the combo after a certain amount of hits. It’s seriously dangerous, though, makes a pretty good character potentially really good.
The loop isn’t exactly easy to setup either. That’s one of the reasons why nobody has been doing it consistently with the exception of a few players. It’s not exactly a brain dead setup. You either bait a DP vs a shoto or you go for lvl3 Focus Attack.
And the whole point is to get the knockdown for splash crossup and mixup. I think he’s really fine the way he is even without getting hit by RSF loop. His speed is ridiculous and he has enough mixup to stay in the match. The only problem is his damage. If he gets hit, he bleeds.
It’s a loop that results in a dizzy. For all intents and purposes there is no real difference between calling it a “loop” or an “infinite”. Both terms fit.
I bet only on Sim and Akuma it’s a true redizzy/inf,looks like mostly every1 else it does like 30% something damage with like 60%+ stun ending with a knockdown.
Infinite actually doesn’t fit, because infinite would imply that you can do the combo over and over and over, redizzying each time, for eternity. That doesn’t happen. That’s how “loop” is different from “infinite”. Loop is doing the same thing over and over until the combo ends. Infinite is doing the same thing over and over, and the combo NEVER ends until you want it to.
Guy didn’t need to rely on that kind of crap. Why should El Fuerte?
cause guy had 60% + combos…
Guy was actually good in his game(A3) with 60%+ combos. El Fuerte gets hit and he bleeds, so it’s a good trade to be honest.
how do u know the dizzy meter starts again in the same combo…i don’t think we can make assumptions like this b 4 we get the console version…it looked like the combo definitely was a loop and not an infinite though…there was definitely push back preventing it from being done infinitely.
You can’t do redizzies.
Look, the guys in the recent Fuerte videos can do this loop well, they don’t mess it up. And they’re not being nice to their opponents, they’re playing to win. If it was an infinite or a redizzy, they would do it every time, and a single close standing fierce punch would win them the round. But that’s not what’s happening. You can see that as they do it, they slowly get pushed back until they can no longer do another hit and it either gets blocked or they do a slide/splash to end it. And if it dizzies the opponent, they do the same thing, and it never redizzies.
People are still forgetting that this shit isn’t exactly easy to land. He still has good mixup options and a pretty fast overhead. He just can’t get hit a lot. =/
werd.
I’m willing to bet all the fools who are going “ZOMG, teh infinite is brokenz!!” haven’t actually played the game yet.
The loop is hella hard to perform, and fuerte takes damage like a bitch.
unless your Guile =)
What I can gather from the SF4 master guide is that RSF is an Infinite if done perfectly…but this is the translation from my step mum(Japanese) who doesn’t know a whole lot about SF.
Doesn’t this loop result in a dizzy?
Not always, in fact not really that often at all from the recent match vids. Usually they get 5 fierces in before they get pushed out, so they do 5 and a slide, and it usually doesn’t dizzy.
against ryu my local arcade el fuerte( wich is master grade… the only one in japan ) make me 9 hit loop. 8 punch then slide…
the best you can wish is that the last hit make you dizzy because if it doesnt when you wake up if el fuete touch you with is mix up them you will be dizzy and the damage would be a lot( generally end of the round).
there is plenty of way to make the loop start not only fa…
wow 8 punches… does it matter when it dizzies though? I mean doesn’t dizziness occur only at knockdown? So I’m thinking it wouldn’t matter whether it’s at the 5th hit or the 8th…all that counts is the knockdown (slide)
or I might have confused it with air juggles.