probably already been answered but how is seth able to nullify or cancel out rose U2?
If you use the tanden engine special and she is NOT blocking it cancels them out. If she IS blocking you pull her right into you for a free combo. I wouldn’t recommend doing it unless you’re sure you will catch her, or it might be game over.
If rose activates U2 next to you, you can EX SPD her through it. However if she holds up you’re boned. But most Rose players are either going to block or hit a button.
Probably the best (safest) option is just teleport away and let it run out or throw sonic booms at it.
heres another way, if u have 2 bars… fireball cancel to bait her to jump. and then shoryuken. u lose meter but u save life
For some reason it didn’t hit me that Abel can EX Roll through both of Seth’s Ultras. I knew he could do it through U2, but don’t think I ever had someone do it through U1 until last Friday night.
I was trying to catch a roll happy Abel with U1 near the end of the roll and dude just threw out a EX roll and went right through my U1 for free punish.
I already knew Gief could null Seth’s U1 with EX Green Hand if it misses for free huge punish but damn…Abel. What’s that matchup like 6-4 Abel?
He can normal roll through U1.
You really can’t punish rolls with ultra on reaction. Too slow.
A lot of characters can just jump over U1 for a punish anyway. You shouldn’t consider it safe at all against any character. Pretty sure Abel can just raw counter-ultra it anyway.
Abel vs Seth is 5-5 because both characters have good mixups on each other’s wakeups. Abel’s do more damage but Seth has more ways out of mixups with his backdash, teleport, DP, and EX SPD.
IMO abel seth is 6-4 abel, one of seth’s worst match ups
All you have to do is knock Abel down once to win. And that’s not hard to do.
I’d have to agree with 5-5.
True about both characters having great mixups and really just needing one knockdown.
Headstomp mixups when you have Abel is the corner is almost a guaranteed win if you guess right. I played a local Abel on Friday and the times I did get wins off of him was because I pushed him in the corner and pretty much kept him there/made him guess.
Kind of annoying that Abel can null both of Seth’s Ultras and keep him out of the air with j.hp and j.lp
Me too 5 -5 is right.
I recently beat an abel in a local tourney and yes it was after 1 knockdown. I just kept jumping in and doing different meaty spd variations. Like crossup j. Lk to spd, dive spd, crossup j. Hk tick to spd. And finally empty jump spd ex i think to beat out his final attempt at rolling to escape. Lol anyway after that i got him dizzy… focused and dashed in spd for the win haha crazy.
So i tried this and it worked kinda wierd. Am i supposed to srk before his waake up or at the same time. I timed it exactly at the same time anda we both just go up together and wiff… not much of a problem cuz i did the 2 extra air srks and those hit. Other wise u both just land together after the first hp srk.
I’m not sure I don’t use that. I’ll normally jump before Dictator’s EX stomp with a stomp, then j.mp, stomp stomp DK or j. mp ultra etc.
Played a tourney there 2 weeks ago in Ireland. Found a few decent abels but the match is def 5-5.
My biggest fear when playing him is a random EX COD (hard to punish). Easily punishes standing stretch or any mid range pokes. Against him the best advice i can give is just dont take ur time, rush him down as his godlike jumping heavy will make sure u stay in a corner if he gets u there.
Upon knockdown its easy to start off a magneto loop (fat character) and either mixup with SPD’s or FADC’d Shoryu’s to headstomp or another spd.
EX SPD after blocking the first hit will punish regardless of whether he stops or continues with the followups, of course assuming it’s not spaced where the EX SPD will whiff.
WHHHHHAAAA?!! i know i can do j.mp to his predictable wakeup ultra 2 but wake up EX stomps??? ima try that my amigo
Help…hi guys, first post just to ask this question…
Firstly the first post isn’t updated and I am not going to read through 24 pages to get what i want. I think I’m in the right thread too to be asking about match up specific advise…
My problem is against c.viper where she always get a free jump in at me. Otherwise, my srk whiff when she does the burning kick and ends up only at mid screen. Maybe my footsies ain’t good, but I seem to keep losing to the c.mp xx thunder knuckle…
When i do get a knockdown, she reversals with a fierce thunder knuckle or ex thunder knuckle to beat my jump in. If I do a cross up jump in, she gets out with an ex kick. Then it’s all back to square one again…It’s pretty hard as j.mp or j.mm and nj.hp always loses to the burning kick or her super j.hk.
Anything I’m doing wrong here??
On her wake up, tanden engine beats everything except burn kick if you are at the right range.
I asked Art on the last guard crush stream what he thought of the abel match up and he said he felt it was 6-4 abel, which I agree with. You guys are all saying 5-5 which doesn’t sound absurd or anything but I’m fairly confident that match up is at least 5.5-4.5 abel if not just a straight 6-4. Yes, Seth can maul him on one knockdown. But it’s going to require at least 3 right guesses on mixups. All abel has to do is guess one roll when you didn’t tanden engine/command grab and he gets out safely. On the other end of the spectrum, in that match basically one wrong guess for Seth and it’s over with. If you get hit by one mixup after a knockdown odds are you lost the round.