Seth-in-depth Match-up Thread

This doesn’t matter, only that the SRK is invincible (and not slow enough to hit after the recovery of the jab).

But like you said Seth linked cr.lp’s leave at least 1 frame to reversal between each jab. But if you chain them it doesn’t. But then you can’t cancel into a special.

So basically in standard english…

The lp string has a chance of reversing an attempted dp or another move incase seth doesnt link properly?
Meanwhile my med punch link has a higher chance of getting punished if blocked?

Im pretty good at linking tho so i guess its nott much toworry about. The link i wanna really master is lp to hp start up combo.

c.lp to s.hp is a chain. And a lp string wont reversal anyone, but instead be reversed if linked. It wont get shoryu’d if it’s chained.
In lamer terms, Link=reversal, chain=safe(unless you time it wrong). Also, you get more frame advantage if you start your block string with c.lp but it doesn’t hit low.

c.lp to s.hp is a chain. And a lp string wont reversal anyone, but instead be reversed if linked. It wont get shoryu’d if it’s chained.
In lamer terms, Link=reversal, chain=safe(unless you time it wrong). Also, you get more frame advantage if you start your block string with c.lp but it doesn’t hit low.

I hope you mean link.

No, as far as I know they’re just being scrubby or are scared to do the 2-frame link… Seriously.

Yeah I did, I was messed up with all the talk about jabs.

wait wait now im def confused. Yes now i get that they are being scared to combo as i do sometimes get scared of messing up and getting lighting Ls blocked and punished. but isnt a “chain” and a “link” the same thing? a link is a combo… a combo cant be reversaled if u dont mess up. thats my understanding. so c.lp to s.hp to legs for example is a link combo no?

lol sorry i just really wanna understand alot more lingo since im really trying to rank at least to number 2 seth globally. seems like AUY (#1 seth) is good but seems scrubby with some combos… not to mention the fact that his points are ridiculously high compared to 2nd place, which reminds me of a certain AYA catgirl and her boosting.

wait let me see if this is what you guys mean…

chain = c.lk c.lp c.lp c.mpxx mlegs (non reversable if comboed correctly)

link during attempted chain = c.lk c.lp c.lp c.lp s.lk (chain) next hit makes it a link cuz they can reversal c.mkxx mlegs

so the link happens from far s.lk that hits low to the c.mkxx mlegs chain and a shoryuken can stop that link yes???

It doesn’t matter what move you use to combo into legs, they can always DP you between the normal you would cancel into the legs from and the one before that. There is no reason to use cr.lp over cr.mp.

Either you do cr.lk xx cr.lp, cr.lp xx legs or you do cr.lk xx cr.lp, cr.mp xx legs.

In SF4 unless you have a target combo you can only chain light button attacks, and not even all of them.

cr.mp is -1 on block, IE safe.

Oh ive never had anyone dp in between my comboed normals inless i mess up. I view replaysand see them mashing too. Maybe only ex is what has stopped me.

A chain is like 4 c.lp you won’t be able to combo from them.
A link would be c.lp c.lp c.lp xx legs

c.lp > c.mp can’t get shoryu’d out of but c.lp > c.lp >c.mp would get shoryu’d

I get it now but no the mp combo cant be dped. Its a legit combo.

CapButt, somehow, they all forgot to mention they meant if the cr.lp is blocked…

if you get two blocked cr.lp’s then try to do cr.mp, as if it was a blockstring, you might get mashed into death.

Lol, yeah I totally forgot to mention it has to be blocked.

If you link a cr.lp you can get hit by a DP anyways.

I should have mentioned that only chains were safe.

Yes Kiku, IF YOU MISS THE LINK :T You guys are confusing CapButtocks.

Anyways, Cap, if they block any of your cr.lp, then you try to LINK and not CHAIN something after it, you might get tagged by an SRK. Only way to avoid this is to do lp/lk chains.

aha!!! thanks now it all makes sense!! kiku was right tho. dont see how the top seths use scrubby combos and still get points. well now im glad to know i can stick with my game style without having to revert to easier combos i dont need.

Lol, online =/=skill, sorry if you thought otherwise. I thought Hiropon or what ever his name was 1st? I haven’t played online in a couple months so I’m probably wrong.

No, some Seth in Japan managed to get over 10K BP in like 2 weeks to get way head of hiropon.

Oh, I got you. The Seth Army must be really small, because I was 7th Seth in the world a couple months back and now I’m 22nd lol. If I was playing Ryu I would be like 14759th.