How about, fuck all those sticks. Get the semitsu ls-36 bitch.
Well, I guess I will buy an Ls-55 with octa and try how it feels. If I don’t like, i always can install my ls-40 again XD
I tried an Octo and it was pretty bad. Hitting corners on charges was a huge pain in the ass and I was messing up a shit ton, and circular movements were surprisingly, much easier on the square gate.
Is the good thing about octa gates, rotation movements are easier. The bad thing is to cover… Diagonals are more ephemeral.
I read Ls-55 has larger engage distance than Ls-56, more closer to Ls-33 (the seimitsu stick with largest engage distance), so definitely Ls-55 is not for me. I’ll try Ls-56 with octo gate.
Yeah but that’s the thing, rotations aren’t really all that easier and feel really awkward, you feel those weird bumps that you don’t feel with a square. With a square gate, you can ride the corners for easy diagonals or just rotate it without hitting them. Takes a little practice but it isn’t so bad. The octo will probably kill your game, but if you can afford to try it out and resell if you don’t like it, then by all means. Luckily, I was able to play on a stick with both a JLF and an octo, so I had a chance to kill 2 birds with one stone. I like the feel of Seimitsu and squares much better.
Please, let me ask you something.
The LS-56 (shortest engage/throw seimitsu stick) with octogate = once the switch is pressed, the actuator is hitting the gate.
If is right that LS-33 has the largest engage distance, the actuator would hit the gate before reach the switch, since the octogate is the same for both sticks, does that make sense? Can also TheRealNeogeo answer that one?
If the actuator hit the gate before reaching the switch, you would have a joystick that can’t do anything.
laugh.
Well it can’t be because as kikimaru said, that’s not a very practical joystick. My guess is it’s pivoted at a different point or has a longer shaft.
Congrats for your answer skills.
Yes. That’s because i believe LS-33 is not the largest.
So, I threw in a LS-56-01 in my Arcana Heart 2 stick today (which has that Hori mounting bracket). Now, I used a VF mounting plate because it was an easy replacement (that and lots of people say that’s the one to use for the AH2, HRAP3, any other Hori stick that has that bracket).
Now…I did notice that the MS plate does align properly (I didn’t get a chance to check to see if the LS-56-01 with MS plate mounts properly). So, there should be no issue using a MS plate besides that you’ll only have two screws to secure the plate to the bracket unless you go out and buy more screws. I assume that is the reason why the VF plate is preferred since you only use two screws.
Which mounting plate do I buy for the 32-01 to put into the SE Madcatz SFIV stick (mine needs replacing)
Dropping my .02 cents on sticks I’ve played on.
The LS-32, honestly, is my least favorite stick of the ones I’ve used. My complaint lies mainly in the square gate. It seems like a true square, and my problem with that is the effect of getting “Locked” in a corner. Sure, I’m a bit close to the gate, but playing Claw in ST really highlighted this issue to me. It all lies in preference, but I personally did not like this, even with the LS-32 being the first Japanese joystick I tried.
The LS-40 feels tighter, engages shorter, and responds quicker than the LS-32 to me. I much prefer it over the LS-32, but I imagine one would really need to get a feel for this stick for it to be their main preference. I don’t feel the locking in the corners of the gate when I play on this stick, a plus in my book.
JLF, aka the flagship stick. Honestly, the JLF wins my favorite on only 2 attributes, smoother pivot quality, and smoother square gate. The pivot quality really stood out to me after playing on an LS-32 for a couple of years. Basically when you rotate the stick, it goes where it is told to go with little to no effort, which makes it feel like the only elements you are fighting against with the stick are the spring and the gate. We all know of its versatility, so I won’t go into that realm.
At some point in time, I would like to try the LS-33/55/56 and JLW. But as of now, I am trying hitbox.
Can I put a JLF gate on an LS 32 if I decide I’m having similar issues?
That would be the LS-40.
Nope, completely incompatible.
Only gates that work on multiple models of sticks are the gates for the LS-33, LS-55, and LS-56.
LS-36 mod resolves this. Makes it supreme.
That would be what you believe…
So I bought the LS-32 and swapped it in for the JLF, and I have to say I’m so glad I did. It’s exactly what I wanted. Truthfully it doesn’t feel that much different from the JLF, but it’s much more precise. For so long I thought maybe I just sucked with inputs because I was getting all of these weird phantom inputs in training mode, so if nothing else this was worth the $20 for piece of mind alone. Everything I’ve put in is picture perfect so far. True QCFs, true DPs, and true Tiger Knees. Practically no extra inputs at all so far.
Uh, it’s been measured that the LS-40 has the shortest throw and engage, which is why I bought it in the first place.
So i tell you that measurements are the wrong way to atribute joystick engagements, maybe is correct for the throw, but not for engage. I’ll try to tell people why. (in not good english but i think would be fine).
LS-32/40 microswitches has big levers, the actuator in both 2 sticks hits in almost the beak of the lever but the main button of microswitch is placed above the point where actuator hits. This means the lever starts to move at minimal touch but needs a little bit more to press the switch.
The LS-56 has different switches with smaller levers. The actuator still hits the beak of the lever but the main button of switch is right on actuator hits. This means needs less movement to switch be pressed, because the actuator is in direction of main button. (this shouldn’t be considered on JLF because the switches in this case are more spaced on JLF body, while in the LS-32/40/56, the actuator is already reaching the levers in the neutral.
So, believe in all people (including me) that says LS-56 is the shortest one with faster engage of Seimitsu sticks, because that is the truth. LS-40 has really fast engage but is not faster than LS-56. The right way to measure is with touch/tactile experience.
I hope you can notice that the button of switches in LS-56 picture (last 2 pics) are visible, because that proves exactly what i said. You must stop to believe in charts and try other sticks by yourself before tell which is faster or not. Yes, i experienced all of these.
http://kowal.itcom.pl/foto/joyLS32-RH8.jpg
http://kowal.itcom.pl/foto/joyLS40-RH8.jpg
http://kowal.itcom.pl/foto/joyLS56-RH8O.jpg
http://kowal.itcom.pl/foto/joyLS56-RH8.jpg
Similar (or sometimes the same) as LS-32/40
http://www.kowal.itcom.pl/ArcadeParts_pliki/image5571.gif
Similar (not the same) as LS-56 [smaller lever/activates faster]