Ric do you even take into account that people play low tiers because they like the way a characters plays and not just to have a moral victory?
LOL, this coming from a guy who rode Fei’s top tier bullshit as far as it would take him? How can a Fei Long user disrespect Justin Wong?
Oh c’mon that BS and you know it!
I used fei back in vanilla when he was garbage so it was sheer dumb luck that he just happened to end up top tier for 1 game afterwards. On that note fei was only top tier because the cast progressively got worse with each iteration while he remained the same. Compared to vanila akuma,ryu,sagat,rufus,rog or even the top charge characters in super he isn’t all that. In short he the worst top tier in fighting game history.
He’s been top tier since Super and still is. Fei was a top tier far longer than he wasn’t.
Furthermore fei isn’t top 3 in 2012 which is good enough for me:)
Also it’s a known fact top players use top tiers just so they win…almost no one picks a characters they like but rather a character who will win. Anytime a top player choices a low tier it’s to make a point, in fact someone like air told me the reason he never picked up fei or guile was because they were to broken(this was back in super)and he that he didn’t like using characters who were to strong…which is funny considering he did use vanilla ryu who is more broken then those 2 but you get the point.
Shane you online for some 3s?
I can for a ft10.
He’s 3 points out of first, that’s top tier.
True top tiers are in the top 3.
He’s like the 3s yang of sf4 basically.
Tiers are selected by points then separated into colors. Fei is listed as top tier with Seth/Viper/Cammy/Akuma.
I have no idea where you get your information or if you just make it up as you go but as usual you have no fucking clue about the topic you are attempting to discuss.
All I knows is that he isn’t top 3 which IMO means he isn’t "true"top tier.
Would you consider a S tier someone who isn’t even top 3?
You were just told what top tier is. There is no difference between “true” top tier and actual top tier.
Yes. In AE the S tier is Seth/Viper/Cammy/Akuma/Fei
Yea wtf stop making retarded shit up. “True top tiers are in the top 3” lol what?!?
Fei is the worst top tier in fighting game history?!?!
Ppl play low tiers for moral victories?!?!
JWong purposely plays top tier characters?!?! Like Ironfist in UMVC3? Or Ruby Heart Jill Ken? Or like Evo 2k5 A-Hoahmaru, Mai, Vega in CvS2? Yep all top tier I guess.
You can’t seriously believe the stuff you’re saying lol
We will just had to agree to disagree but remember I said fei wasn’t top and everyone told me I was wrong…I’ll take my victory:)
And you are wrong as usual.
Like I said stop trying to discuss subjects you have no fucking clue about.
What the?
“let’s agree to disagree, but remember, I’m right”?
Oh well, at least this is entertaining.
Ric, I defy you to find a single top player who thinks Fei is not top tier in ver2012. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
I think the more time 2012 gets the more likely he will drop. Remember mvc2 cable was considered the best character in the early years so things do change…
This is 2012. Information spreads faster, and we figure out games faster. Mago and company have also been playing Fei for well over 2 years, they understand the character and the metagame. Plus, we have the entire world breaking down SF4, not just America like MvC2, and more tournaments are held for this game with Japanese attendance than any other FG in history.
Your argument against Fei being top tier is “maybe he won’t be 3 years from now”? Really?
Any luck finding that player?
Why would he drop? it’s not like this game is new anymore, it’s basically unchanged since Super. Fei is still tops but instead of being braindead you actually need to be legit, which is why only great players still succeed with him and all the scrubs stopped playing him.
You dudes need to keep a open mind that tier list are not always perfect indicators and sometimes mistakes are made. Fei is A tier now but maybe something might happen that exposes him…you never know.
You need to accept that Fei is top tier.