Sagats changes in AE-2012

Most of the buffs don’t look like they’ll give them a significant edge. Honda’s headbutt buffs will make him a threat at mid screen, but all of his tough matches got easier or stayed the same. It looks like all of his match ups will be closer to 5-5, regardless of who originally had the advantage.

I think AE 2012 will be really good.

I think everyone will be really good like everyone should be.
This is what sf is suppose to be lmao.

It’s all about the player, characters just suit whatever style u fit.
Sagat is still boss though…

Be good that everyone is solid, AE 2012 hopefully will last another 10 years.
And I know EVO 2k12 for AE will be more exciting and more variety of characters.

So whats this ive been hearing about Sagat being able to combo 2 cr.mp none counterhit in 2012 edition? can anybody confirm?

Since the hitbox has been extended I wouldnt be shocked. It would just take some frame data tweaking as well.

damn man un annouced changes ftw if this is true.

Actually hitbox extension and frame data tweaking are 2 major different things. The fact that all they said was they extended the hitbox from the base does not give clues to this. if this IS true then this can be very good for sagat , and on counterhit im pretty sure u can do cr.mp , cr.HP x TU on some characters. really need my hands on this

cr. Fierce doesnt cancel into anything. The extended hitbox is probably to help him put pressure close range with a extra frametrap and hitconfirming into a combo with less damage scaling. I cant see another reason.

Lol. for some reason i thought u could combo after the original counter hit.Cr fierce combos into TU on counterhit.

Although if this is true cr.mp , cr.HP should link on CH atleast

I use it a lot, personal favorite: c.lk, c.hp frametrap, and on CH link with TU. Massive damage, easy hit-confirm imho.

if thats the case in 2012, it makes c.mp atleast +5 frame advantage on normal hit

vanilla/super/ae - c.mp on counter hit is +7 frame advantage

c.hp is +4 frame advantage on normal hit,

tig3rsan your wrong just because the move doenst have special cancel ability doenst mean you cant combo off with it on normal hit,

you can combo off normal hit c.hp into c.lp … on nearly haft of the cast at close range

that is not possible, the only move that will have counter hit property on that combo is c.mp the rest will be a normal hit, unless for some god reason they totally change c.hp making it atleast +5frame advantage on normal hit, so that 5frame TigerUppercut can connect

counter hit usually gives +2 extra frame advantage, for c.mp counter hit to be able combo to c.hp,
c.mp would need to be atleast +6 frame advantage on normal hit, which i highly doubt capcom would do some crazy change like that for 2012, but it would be sick tho

that would mean counter hit c.MP into 1 frame link c.HP into 1frame link TigerUppercut hahaha

I was talking about cancelling out of a cr Fierce and not linking a move afterwards. Also, after CH cr mP - cr Fierce you’re opponent is pushed back quite a bit so you cant link a normal anymore. Your options are non-existent at that point.

More frame traps now…
Abit of range is required.
Cr.mp is good for it.

Not flaming/trolling but…You cann’t cancel CF.fierce. You can only link a move after words if it is in range and the frame advantage allows it.

Just fix that fucking Ultra 1 in the corner… damn, that shit pisses me off since Vanilla!

yeh yeh ok , you are correct you cannot cancel out of a crouching fierce , but do u know who your talking to ? obviously we all knew that already.i worded it wrong thats all .

And the 2nd part you are completely incorrect , you can theoretically do it on alot of characters , because even now you can do cr.hp cr.lp xtu and it combos and reaches. next time try not to sound so condescending in your posts.

My first post:

My second post:

Plz read the whole page next time.

Cmp is +7 i believe. you can combo low forward from ch c mp.

Im not talking about: cr. Fierce - cr lP
Im talking about: CH cr. mP - cr. Fierce - cr lP
The latter does not work (maybe on Gief).

And if I come off condescending, I apologize for that. Dont know what makes you think Im trying to be condescending, since I didnt put in anything personal or anything.