So i have pretty much come to the conclusion that capcom see sagat players as a joke , after absolutely destroying the character after vanilla, because of scrubs crying and people had no idea how to play the game , I held on to the hope that they would see the fault in there rushed and overdone nerfs to sagat , and kindly make him a fun character again like he was in vanilla . After a long 2 years , and after wishing and waiting , we finally get to see the adjustments… 10 damage to angry scar uppercut.
Sagat is really good what are you talking about. He’s easily top 10 in the game and that’s definitely not going to change now.
EDIT: Wait are you still playing Super and not AE? Because Sagat is really good in AE.
I agree with mowr. Sagat is still really good in AE and doesnt need extreme buffing (although lk cancel would be nice). V Sagat was nerfed into oblivion and STILL was A tier. He got buffed in AE and now again in AE 2012 so I think you’re complaining about the wrong character being weak.
Sagat will be more than OK in AE. And if you don’t like him, just fucking change character instead of creating threads like this to cry about how you’d like to have vanilla Sagat back.
You can have Vanilla Sagat back!
Play Vanilla!
Are you serious? I was happy not to see nerfs and you aren’t happy over nothing but a buff? Sagat is good in AE
Yeah i want vanilla sagat back , and yeah i will make a thread about it . superlollo arent you that italian akuma scrub , please dont comment in my thread thanks
They should have made his regular fireballs have two hits and cause an extra 5 frames of block stun and have 5 frames less recovery so you can combo after a fireball in the corner with a sweep. Also, they should give him a command grab with a little better range than Zangief’s lp SPD. They should take about 3 frames off the recovery time for his EX TU so you can more easily connect it to Ultra 1. Furthermore, why don’t they make it so that Angry scar completely pauses the game and doesn’t have any recovery frames so it completely cancels a move. And if they are doing that, why not make it able to be canceled out of a special move. And, it should build meter instead of costing meter. And it should stack. and if used in a combo should return damage scaling back to zero. So I’m thinking a realistic combo should be:
HK xx LTS xx Angry scar, Dash up, HK xx LTS xx Angry scar, Dash up, HK xx LTS xx Angry scar, Dash up, HK xx LTS xx Angry scar, Dash up, EX TU, Ultra 1. For something in the ball park of 1200 damage
Obviously this is assuming they fix the corner issue for full connection in the corner of ultra 1.
But seriously, a Lk that can cancel from max distance would have been nice.
lmao yeah thats him. sucks that the new forum doesn’t let you block ppl anymore, or at least I haven’t figured out how to do it. I was surprised when I realized I was reading one of his posts again after the “upgrade”
I miss vanilla sagat because I thought he was awesome aside from his retarded damage output. AE Sagat is still pretty good though. maybe vanilla Sagat moveset with AE Sagat damage would be balanced?
lol maybe i was more annoyed this morning , still i stand by my word -so what if i want a fun sagat back? the fact hes in the top 10 doesnt mean anything , as a character he still feels like a budget version of his original self. people like Ken are better then sagat in AE imo and he still got buffs. if i was being fair and looked at it subjectively , all i would give sagat is st lk cancel , and swap the damage back for tiger knee so last hit does good damage , but leave the hit/block stun as it is. maybe 10 more damage on uppercut or forward HK. Im really annoyed that they made tiger uppercut FADC fw.hk do something like 200 damage , it needs to do alot more the 2 bar cancel never feels worth it anymore. i dont like the fact ex Tu combo does more damage . but thats all really. yeah sagat is still good , but its boring and really dry that every year pretty much we dont get anything good for the king , its like there scared to do anything to him in fear of all the angry rage scrubs. so they added 10 more attack to angry scar uppercut lol
you are so dumb
like really really dumb
I think everyones’ point is, Sagat is fine as is. Yeah, I’m sure he could use a few buffs, and I personally don’t think it’d be out of line to make him more similar to his Vanilla iteration. But at the end of the day, Sagat is still a good character in AE. Capcom isn’t worrying much about the characters that are, for the most part, just dandy. They’re more trying to address those that are severely lacking, or far too dominant.
I wouldn’t be upset if they thought to themselves, “Well that Angry Scar idea was interesting, but pretty useless. I mean, why would anyone use it if they could just do an EX TU instead for more damage? Well, lets return his TU back to what it was, and give him that standing light kick back. Some people did like it for breaking focus attacks fast, but they are jabronis and sagat will be a viable character with a good low counter-poke that can cancel.” I mean, even if they made the kick worth 25 damage but could cancel. Sagat would have a much better counter-poke game and become more scary to just throw limbs out at.
lol look man can i have only people that are atleast half decent posting - or atleast main sagat. Zal - whats a guile maining scrub doing in the sagat forums in this thread? its always the bad players with the biggest mouths . You maining guile tells me 90 % of what i need to know about you. if u dont have a decent input or argument and the only thing u can contribute is " you are dumb" then get the fuck out of here , i guarantee i would destroy u at this game so watch what u say before u call people dumb. everyone else - thanks for the valid points / arguments
oh i’m a scrub, and you’re the one who started a thread trying to claim your character isn’t good enough
gtfo with that shit. We can all see through your bullshit, just cause you post vids of yourself playing against top players over the internet on youtube does not make you any sort of authority on balance.
and here’s a hint, trying to discredit any player purely on their main is a stupid way to defend yourself. you probably get bodied by chuns and guiles all the time in tournaments, that is if you even enter any
gonna laugh my ass off when this gets locked and you get an infraction
Zal, to be fair, he not only discredited you on your main, but on your useless post. So, before you jump on the defense about your lack of knowledge on Sagat, maybe you should explain how your original post is useful and a valid part of the discussion. I’m sure as handsome and smart as you are, it will be easy to explain how “you are so dumb” is a useful and intellectual addition to this discussion.
you’re acting as if this thread is legitimate to begin with.
and i wasn’t talking about myself being discredited. my post has no value and is only an opinion, but honestly this thread is trash.
i’m merely stating that who i play has no bearing on the value of my opinion.
sagat has all the tools you need, quit being a fucking scrub and learn how to play instead of bitching like little school girls
wow this thread was super easy to derail. further proof that the discussion at hand was entirely useful
I understand that you are upset. I can see that it is difficult for you to allow people to discuss something that you don’t care about on an open forum, I actually think that you should go into every thread on this site and share whether or not you approve of its existence. After all, now that I know that you don’t approve of this thread, I’m beginning to question others as well. So be a chap and go into every thread on this site and let me know if you think it is a worthwhile discussion.
Thanks,
BOOTY
This thread is dildos.