OK , Ibuki is officially not exempt from crouching mp frame trap anymore , same as blanka and Yang etc. no more whiffed frame traps on the bitch , time to destroy her on wake up
Does that mean the c.lk, c.lk, c.mp, hp TU combo will become more reliable ?
I think Sagat needs fst.LK back precisely because it stops Rekkas lol. That’s one of Sagat’s hardest match ups…he isn’t Akuma, but, yeah.
I dunno, I’m more or less fine with the changes. I was actually kind of happy at first because someone mistranslated fixing cr.MP’s hit box as extending cr.LP’s…that would have been amazing.
Think they should use Emblem’s suggestion about Tiger Knee damage distribution regardless though.
On characters it works ‘infrequently’ on, I think so.
I don’t think Sagat needs any buffs except the ultra 1 in the corner bullshit. I mean honesly, I’ve had characters fall out of the ultra so early that they can actually raw ultra me before I recover. Yeah, my ultra punish on hit. It’s just absurd that this happens.
Ultra 2 doing all the hits after an ex fireball combo in the corner / tu fadc f.rh u2 …
Not arguing about his “potential”, but how exactly is he better in AE than he was in his supposed “weak” state in Super? He ended up with virtually nothing worth noting in AE. Is it just because of the adjustments to other characters that made his matchups slightly more favorable in AE?
Indeed. It’s relative. He is solid in Super and good in AE because in AE other chars suck more.
I’m not sure at the moment, but I think Mago may switch back. The line between Sagat and Fei Long just got thinner by quite a bit.
That could actually be considered another buff right there.has he stated anything like that? I think Sagat just being rughly as strong as Fei alone wouldnt make him switch cause hes gotten more used to fei over the years…but who knows…
Yeah but he enjoys playing Sagat more (me too as I also main both). He has been seen playing Sagat quite a bit , but that could mean anything, everyone switches now and again. Fei Long’s going to have trouble with the charge characters again. His nerfs are just enough to keep him strong but he won’t be an instant go to top tier IMO.
With Akuma, Viper, Yun, Yang and Fei all getting toned down. That can only mean Sagat moves up ever so slightly. That could be enough for a switch.
Yea! We’re probably gonna see more people switching or switching back(lol) to Sagat. Which is a good thing anyway.Hopefully we’ll see some interesting Tiger Shit in ver.2012
Early news is Akuma can still safe jump Sagat even from his forward throw nerf.
A few guy’s have managed to mod the PC version with the frame changes in V2012.
Take this with a grain of salt until it’s confirmed.
Seismic hammer throw invincabilty removed!!!
(disclaimer: Viper mainer)Don’t sweat about it. Ex seismo throw invuln is not an essential feature in Viper’s arsenal. hp tk getting it is is a real buff however. The swap might screw low level players but overall it makes the char more solid (it will negate some critical OS and setups against her). And don’t get me started on ex bk getting juggle property, it might just push stun combos over the rooftop.
Imho Sagat’s real buff is Akuma’s s.hk 2nd hit going down to -2 on block, but that’s just how I feel it.
^^ nar I think its a big hit, essentially your wake up is even more fucked, more people can safe jump os throw now which iirc wrecks hptk (still 7 frames ?) and now ex seismo.
but then again theres always panic seismo into ultra.
brb salty
ps bumping old thread due to change log due for release on 30th nov. Heres to hoping we get st lk (1 hit) which we probably wont.
Though I think that sagat will probably stay the same if not be slightly better in 2012 ae since largely everyone but gouken is getting nerfed.
^wut?
Well, at least he didn’t get worse…
Wow , i waited till this time in the morning to see that sagat…gets the exact same 2 ridiculously minor changes they showed us about 3 months ago. not that i wanted him to be buffed… i think hes balanced. st lk wouldnt of hurt though. but its really boring that other characters get new stuff while sagat is just exactly the same. fuck this shit im going to bed
Angry scar and cr.mp r better…
I’ll take it…
Doesn’t look good, most characters but Sagat get buffed…