Alright I’m hoping I don’t get flamed for asking this here since it might’ve been posted in another thread.
More often then not when I uppercut FADC into forward roundhouse ultra, I cross under the person when I dash forward. I thought it was only in certain situations related to their position in the air, but often times when I’m simply punishing this happens. Is there a specific timing that I’m not getting, or is there another way to ensure that I hit the ultra off a canceled Tiger Uppercut?
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A) make sure to wait a while after the uppecut fadc doing it right away leads into the problem you are having
B) do not hold forward after the dash
specifically on characters like balrog, you have to wait longer than you would against others.
1st Question: How good is Sagat’s cross-ups? I’ve had decent success with it, but I think it was because they weren’t very good players. If his cross-up is good, what should i do to follow the j.lk?
2nd Question: When zoning the the opponent with tiger shots, any tips on how to punish them when they jump over fireballs. I can’t quite get to the right spot to use s.Hk when they jump over the tiger shot. They always land right on front of me, and I can’t punish them. Can you guys tell me what to do in various situations involving zoning with tiger shots, fire ball fights, etc.
Thanks a lot for helping a new player. Much appreciation
unless they jump as you fireball you can always to LP tiger upper unless they cross you up before you recover.
his crossup is ok but its another tool he has if he needs to keep some pressure on.
cr.strong cr.jab into uppercut cancel ultra or cr.short cr.short cr.jab uppercut cancel ultra
what is better in your opinion ?
wich tiger shot strenght should i be using in what situation??
also any good lockdown tips with his tiger shots ??
his crossup is badass if you use it right / the other guy sucks at guarding against it.
It can REALLY annoy wake-up SRK shotos, because you can catch the very tip of them after invinc frames, or just jump over the entire thing completely.
Of course, sometimes you catch an uppercut to the face. Such is life.
Out of j.lk crossup, you can:
c.:lk: or throw.
If you’re going c.:lk:,
**Hit: **c.:lk:, c.:mk:, :d::df::r::mk: Low Tiger
c.:lk:, c.:lp:, :r::d::df::hp: FP Tiger Upper
**Blocked: **c.:lk:, c.:mk:, s.:mk: To get distance
c.:lk:, c.:mk:, :d::df::r: Low Tiger for same reason as above
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Are you talking about f+hk > Tk or just Tiger knee?
Is anyone having problems playing Guile?
So i start the round by taking a step back and shooting some LTS, and when he jumps in I’ll s.HK him in his face. But sometimes i miss my s.HK and he’s getting close so i take another step back. So i kinda repeat this process until im pretty close to the corner. at this point i have a lot of problems.
1, i cant jump out or i eat a moon kick
2, he just starts doing his poke string ( and i kinda freak out)
So yeah i figure i shouldn’t be in the corner
but i have a really hard time jumpin in on guile, his moon kick is nasty.
And shooting close fb’s will get owned bcuz he shots his sb and chases it doing a mp(i think)
so basically i can do good by zoning him, but once i get in the corner i have huge problems, and jumping in on guile is very hard.
need help thx in advance
Someone mentioned j.HP, but straight-up j.HK will also beat him. You can even do it on reaction in some cases. Even stops EX stomps. Just watch out for those DRs.
Standing MK will usually do it. You connect with it while Abel’s leg is pointing up. Takes some reading.
For those of you who are still having trouble with Dictator’s Headstomp:
Regular Headstomp: jHP. This will usually stuff it out unless you do it way too late and trade hits. If you trade hits, Dictator will still be floating and you can probably f+HK, Ultra him. I know it works, because I did it a few minutes ago.
Ex Headstomp: You can do the same thing on the timing and hit him. If your jHP goes right through him, throw him when you both land on the floor because he will lag a little when he lands.
**Devil’s Reverse: **If he’s annoying you to no end, that’s ok. Just jHP anyways and see what he’ll do next. If he reverses and tries to attack you, you can TU him on the way down and f+HK, Ultra him. If he flies away, LTS/HTS/ or Kara TS/TK depending if you want to chip/close the distance or not. a Focus attack will work also but try not to do that every single time because an EX DR will break your focus.
Other options: Include just walking back, dashing backwards/forwards but I’d like to avoid that and let him know that you’re gonna shut his air game down, forcing him to fight you on the ground.
For Abel’s Wheel Kick: sHK/sMK both work real well if timed right. However, when
I fight him and if I’m at that distance, I just crouch and hold (down+forward) with my fingers hovered over LP+LK if i’m not throwing Tiger Shots.
If he rolls: Throw him
If he wheel kicks: Tiger~Uppercut FADC Ultra etc.
If he jumps: Tiger~Uppercut
If he jumps early: sHK
If he dashes in: cLK cLK cLP Tiger~Uppercut FADC Ultra etc.
Hope that helps. Just remember that his Ultra will go through your Tiger Shots.
basically don’t jump in on guile
you can fireball him to death mostly… don’t shoot close fireballs though unless they’re EX fireball and even then they’re risky because they might jump (but good guiles won’t jump much against you). you have to be very careful but the guile will have a lot of trouble if you just don’t mess up
hey - after weeks practice i finally got down TU FADC - however when i go to hit the ultra i do a , is it harder to do the ultra after on a standard ps3 controller than it would be on a joystick - coz i have hit the ultra once, but the rest of the time its a TK, so im assuming im not doin 2 HCF - but it doesnt feel lik i have the time to do 2???
Ive been playin alot of guiles lately as they have been doing this technique quite a bit. When they sb and start to chase, i fa through the sb and into a tk. Works like a charm and then you can just zone them w/ ts. You’ll realize they quickly stop using that tactic.
His cross up is probably one of the worst in the game. This is because it’s a jLK. LP and LK moves have shorter block stuns and therefor offer a higher chance for the opponent to reverse or counter throw you by the time you land. Notice how most other characters crossover with jMK. Regardless, if it’s effective or not, it just gives him more options.
For those fighting Dhalsim with Dummy Uppercut:
This is good, for the first few times if it’s a bad Dhalsim. The reason is because he will bait you into a dummy uppercut by jumping, do his down+kick spiral move, land before you do, and FP you as you’re landing.
Q: Can you EX-Tiger Uppercut into Ultra without a FADC?
Do the whole move and land an ultra?
I thought I did this a while ago, but maybe I’m mistaken
Yes. Go into trial mode and practice there. They are one of the trials.
The trick is to do the Ultra motion as he’s on the way down and tap (Kick x3) about 3 times quickly.
If you’re doing a raw EX Tiger Uppercut, the timing will not be too difficult. However, if you did cLK - cLK - cLP - EX Tiger Uppercut - Ultra, the window for you to be precise becomes smaller an your chances of whiffing/missing the Ultra becomes higher.
That’s just the way it is I guess, because if you try to B&B EX Tiger Uppercut, the opponent will be closer to the ground by the time you land, while Raw EX Tiger Uppercut will knock opponents higher into the sky.
Havent tried hitting the all K’s 3x fast. Gonna have to check that out as im still somewhat inconsistent w/ the ex tu> ultra.
My theory behind this is using negative edge as your advantage. Although, I don’t know exactly how big the window is, but pressing Kickx3 repeatedly after the Ultra motion helps quite a bit and it’s saved me more than I expected. What I’m kind of getting at now though, are characters like Dictator who are “floaty” and just seem to always get hit by EX TU Ultra.
x Z 3 2 x, I just want to thank you for all the helpful information you’ve provided. Anyway, what kind of things can when you and your rival are both crouching and within jabbing distance of each other? Is there only the bnb combo of cr.lk+cr.lk+cr.lp into TU or Lts?