If I FA dash through a shoto’s c.mk xx fireball string, will I have enough time set myself up for a combo or just throw?
I usually just throw.
If I’m not mistaken, Sakura can focus under knees. That might be situational though.
I just started playing the game on my pc and I use a keyboard, I pretty much have Sagats moves down but I can’t seem to pull off the tiger genocide and tiger destruction move on the keyboard, maybe I’m just not pressing the buttons correctly or something.
Can anyone please explain to me how you do it on a keyboard, it’s super difficult and I’m really at a disadvantage without them
A: Buy an arcade stick.
^ pretty much.
I couldn’t imagine playing SFIV on a keyboard…
Does EX green hand > sagat’s ultra always? Lost a round to it recently.
It can beat EX green hand, trade or lose. It depends on active frames, invincibility frames and distance. You can test it in training mode easily, but why are you throwing naked ultra at a standing zangief anyway.
Here’s a question. I apologize if this was already covered in a previous thread. However, what is the best way to counter M. Bison’s head stomp using Sagat? So far I’ve been using straight jump fierce kick with limited efficacy. Any thoughts?
jump straight up fp for regular stomps, backdashes also works
Doesn’t matter cuz you’re not going to be able to do links consistently online any ways. Just spam shots and random upper and have more health than the opponent at the end of the fight. :lol:
Speaking of this…picking up Sagat has me more appreciative of his learning curve. He looks mad easy in vids and then you pick him up and you’re like “oh this takes some work!” LOL. I guess that’s how he is in every game. He does have too much health though good lord I can make mistakes all day with this character and come back off of 2 right decisions. I can do the same with C.Viper except if I make 2 mistakes I don’t advance to the next round of my local/major tourney. :sad:
I’m pretty much just using Gat for the 2 matches that I lose to in tourneys all the time which is Gief and Honda. They keep me from playing the way I want to play and can avoid most of Viper’s more damaging attack options. Not patient enough to play as if I’m Sagat using C.Viper so I decided it’s a better idea to play as Sagat using Sagat. At least that way if I miss a “tiger shot” (seismo) I won’t lose all my life instantly and never be able to get back up off the ground. :lol:
**So my question ** (a rather basic and already answered one probably) is how are you guys doing these link combos like c.LKx2, c.LP, HP uppercut FADC Ultra? Are you guys P-linking the c.LP into the HP uppercut? It definitely seems like a 1 frame link and I find it tough to do that combo anything close to consistently even offline. Most of C.Viper’s 1 frame links are just linking a normal into another normal. 1 framing into a special move requires more work so I’m trying to get this all down. I know this is an important combo for Gat since c.LKx2, c.MP usually pushes him too far away for HP upper.
Online or offline , it doesnt matter , u can do it or u cant 
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cr lk into another cr lk is a 2 frames link
cr lk into cr lp is a 4 frames link
I would suggest getting used to cr lk, cr lp , TU first , then add more cr lk .
Also people cant mash beetween the cr lk , cr lp on block if done right because it actually links on block.
I personnaly dont use plink method or double tap for it .
The 1 frame links sagat has are cr lp , cr lp / forward lk cr lp / close mk ,cr lp / forward hk , cr lp ^^
edit : And yes Sagat has one of the highest learning curves in the game
When niggas start dping you out of TK strings on reaction and grabbing you out of deep cross up strings you will really be tested in your ingenuity and how you approach Sagat’s gameplay.
Sagat is hard to play.
Real talk.
What is the frames between c.LP and HP upper? It seems pretty tight. I’m assuming it’s also 2 frames but I have trouble doing it consistently. That’s the part I’m having the most trouble with.
I’ve been playing too much offline to be able to do all the same stuff online that I can offline. Even lag on HDTV’s throws me off. If it ain’t an Evo HD monitor or a CRT I don’t play it on it competitively. Online I just use to figure out how to deal with different play styles and characters. Other than that…no point in taking it seriously. I just practice my combos for offline play really.
Also what’s the best way to input kara tiger shots? The idea is to wait just before the first shot hits right? So far in matches I can only get them out like once in a blue moon. Still getting kara knees and uppercuts instead.
The c.LP into HP uppercut is not a link, it’s a cancel.
I had this problem as well. The key is to do the TU immediately after you input the c.LP. Don’t wait to see the c.LP to start up, don’t wait for anything.
c.LP starts up in 3 frames and has 2 active frames, not sure if that means you have 4 frames or 5 to cancel, but it’s a very short window.
Oh:sweat: I didnt realise he was talking about linking into special 
, well for uppercut yeah its just a cancel .
Well u can buffer the directions before hitting cr lp .
U can do df , d , lp ,df,hp if that helps
but Sir! the noobs are saying that Sagat is easy-no-skill-win-button character and all you do is shoot fireballs! what do we do about that?
But all honesty, what Emblem said. Also don’t worry about taking chip damage. It’s not as bad as you think.
Ok sounds like I just gotta hard body in the c.LP to HP upper. Thanks.
Lastly what are you guys general opinions on the ways to go about the Gief and Honda match? Like if you could sum up each match in like 3 sentences or something that’d be cool or if you wanna list some stuff that isn’t already mentioned in the matchup thread that’d be cool. Against Gief if he gets into like s.MP range what’s the best counter for that? Just throw s.HK at his face?
Oh and yeah…Sagat makes you go to work. He’ll get the job done but it ain’t a walk in the park like all the scrubs think. Stuff like f+HK looks so easy mode in the videos then you try to get the right spacing for it yourself and it’s like “oh wait…I whiffed that terribly” LOL. He just has the tools to be the guy still standing and I like that about him.
Jump back HP works against EX stomp if you know he’s gonna go for it. I really like having a character that has an offensive answer for Bison stomps. Viper has to backdash or walk under it. Lame. You could try to EX seismo or Ultra it but it’s insanely risky. I wanna hit the guy out of that lame move and Sagat lets me do that.
Properly spaced S.MK where you hit him in the face with the tip of your toes, taiga knee from a little farther away. S.HK doesn’t work that great against s.MP. And if he’s at a range where he can crouch it (which is around a good c.mp range), you’re gonna be in a world of hurt when he c.lp -> ex green hands -> you’re probably gonna die because zangief got in.
There’s some posts on the matchup in the matchup thread, I’m going to give it a thorough post soon as well as I feel like it’s the match I’m strongest in.
For honda :
Punish mp and hp doskoi (u can recognize them with the sound) with kara uppercut
If he does sumo splash from close , u can beat it with st mp
U can also focus the 2nd part of it , or ultra to punish it .
always have in mind his charge for ultra before throwing fireball from mid range
if he jumps over slow tiger shots from mid range , u can kara uppercut him (with hk)
if he jumps over slow tiger shots from max range , u can kara knee him but harder
Also dont stay too long close to him when pressuring him .