Ryu vs Cammy is considered 5-5 and it really seem that way
Where is Cammy / Ryu 6-4? It’s 5-5 and should be IMO. Totally balanced match.
japanese tier list has this match as 6-4 in ryu favor.
the iplaywinner ryu tier list seems pretty silly. that’s the reason for this thread because the iplaywinner list seems to based on daigo and his results not ryu…
Daigo just lost to Sako’s Cammy 10-8 in Godgarden 2.5 , dont know if this will be taken into account.
Mago’s tier list has Chun, Cammy, Fei Long, Honda as top tier. people just have different opinion on match-ups. Japanese tier list ranks Ryu in the middle. Americans always like to rank Ryu high because they keep getting beasted by Daigo. lol
sako’s cammy is insane. how do you think he would perform at an evo style environment? cammy definitely seems top tier when watch sako play.
what could daigo have done differently? i watch the matches and i can’t help but feel like anyone except daigo would probably get 10-0 by sako. how do you think top USA ryu would do against sako?
just watching daigo’s defense vs the cammy rushdown is crazy.
if Daigo can’t beat Sako in first to 10. i don’t think any American Ryu can beat Sako. Alex Valle maybe can take 5-6 games
^ Lets not forget that it is possible Daigo didnt play at his best. Its unlikely, but its possible.
Japanese players are good. Daigo doesn’t win all the time.
(If he wins evo japan ssf4 singles, then ok… He can be considered some sort of game god. I’ll admit then that this thread has some honest validity.)
^ If this thread is still going by the time Evo Japan comes ill eat my proverbial hat.
Some strange thing in Daigo play from his set vs Sako. He didnt confirm Ultra 1 , with a clear Juggle with Ex hadoken in the corner; it
happen couple of time. It happen to me all the time…but Daigo never miss that opportunity. Even if this is Japan, this
is online condition and players are bound to miss some stuff.
From Ive heard Sako is consider the other ‘Daigo’ and theres been a long time rivalery between those 2.
Sako is the real deal. Mago after tuning up his Feilong is menacing.
If your name finish in ‘o’ youve got a got chance in the street fighter world. I may change my name to Alexandro:)
Sako deserve 100% his win, his play seem on par with Daigo. After 13 matchs the score is 11-10 Daigo so it
very very close. Now if Capcom nerfed that instant Canon Strike that would be a big problem with Cammy.
Sako basically won in a lot of match since he was timing an instant Canon strike in anticipation of Daigo c.mk.
Without it , what is he going to do.
It will be interesting to see those 2 battle out in the future
Looks like the japanese are giving ryu more 4-6 matchups. Latest tier list has him down against Bison (Dictator), Guile, Balrog (Boxer), Abel, Dhalsim, Fei Long, Rose, and Adon.
no matter how low he gets people will disagree and say he is closer to the top
^ I’d have to agree with most of those. Also LOL at Fei players who have talked so much trash about the match-up being unfair in ryu’s favour.
And lol at the names ending in O thing. Imma have to think about mine now… hmmmmm.
It’s so funny how the rest of the world and Japan disagree in tiers. Here is the US, bison vs ryu is 5-5. i think another person in this forum was discussing how he thought it was 6-4 in ryu favor.
Also, i think someone stated he thought ryu vs boxer was 6-4 in ryu favor :). I personally think that bison, boxer, and of course sim are the worst matches by far for ryu. Adon sucks to fight against too, but i think someone said capcom is fixing his wakeup -> adon players are going to have to learn to block like everyone else :).
IMO, all the characters that dont need to play ground games, or have stronger normals than cr.MK match up well against ryu.
Personally i think that guile is the strongest followed by chun li then bison(dic) then rog(box). Guile is a great character, but he just isnt much fun to play with anymore (at least for me). Honda is super strong against the characters that have to get close to him, or are slow; but he doesnt match up as well against fast or characters with fireballs.
I’m happy that the japanese are doing theory rather than daigo results for ryu. I agree with all the matchup evaluations except for cammy. I think, after watching daigo and sako play, that the match is 5-5. Defensively you have to be insane to block all of cammy’s tricky cross ups.
What do you guys think daigo should have done to beat sako? How does mash dp work against cammy’s cannon strike? I saw daigo interrupt a bunch of sako’s strings with dp in the beginning matches. Is it based on the position of where her foot hits you when you block?
I’m really surprised to see bison having advantage over ryu. Once knocked down he’s at a horrible disadvantage. But I guess his footsie capability against ryu is just that good.
E.Honda as strongest… I really can’t disagree with that. Even against fireball characters, he’s not at too much of a disadvantage at all.
I dont understand why he would be at a bigger disadvantage than other characters since he has so much option on wake up and
seem like most OS trade anyway.
I don’t know. The OS are pretty good from my pov.
^ OS only work because noob Bisons still try to use them. Peeps need to learn the most effective move in all of SF: BLOCK.
Talking about ryu OS versus knockdowned bison. Or is that what you were talking about?