Rose Moveset and Attributes

Yeah, sweep was nerfed. Chun can also sweep you after block.

just got the game,…

It’s me or now J.hp can cross up ?

It did in vanilla SF4 but seems to be a bit more lenient in Super.

I suspect sweep at max range (and that is quite far) to still be reasonably safe? (except perhaps supers and fast moves like rekka etc).

I think it mostly works on crouching characters (AKA people that don’t know how to block)

Somebody should do testing with it to see how safe/unsafe it is per match-up. If Chun can sweep us on block, we can probably get hit with a lot of other shit too.

I haven’t really tested against crouchers but I know there are several characters who you can do a normal crossup jHP on if they’re attempting to stand block it.

This might have been posted before but why is it that when I do:

c.lp c.lp c.lk > c.mp > EX s spiral the damage is 168

and when I try: c.lp c.lk c.mp > l.spiral - The damage is the same

and for me that second combo is easier than the - c.lp c.lp c.lp > l.spiral which does less damage at around 126

Anyway I hope this made sense because the EX spiral seems a bit pointless for combos at least.

EX spiral is far from pointless as it’s the ONLY you can finish that combo against some characters.

nah it’s more range dependent than character dependent. definitely save your meter unless it’s absolutely worth landing EX spiral in that combo

It may be just how I play since I do lp x2, lk, mp most of the time to hit comfirm it online. And when I usually land that combo it’s from a counter hit jab from a frame trap or sumthin. I mostly use it on the smaller characters and Rog ro be safe cuz most people will mash something between the mp and drill in hopes you didn’t link.

from what I remember hearing, you can only get crap like that out with EX drill now in super. Me personally I don’t bother wasting meter on EX drill unless it’s on wakeup reversals or ex spark or something. I’ll take a whiff of a drill if it means i’m safe.

Is Rose’s close s.mk throw invincible?

Yes. It is dope. Also links to cLP which is nice.

It also links into c.mp on counter hit, which is even better. I fish for that a lot personally

That is something I did not know. Very, very good to know.

ah so that’s why i was able to sMK cMP xx drill. i tried it in training and the combo wouldn’t connect. at least it connects on counter cause the combo looks so cool, even though it wasn’t a true one in vanilla i did it constantly.

It connects if you time it right on wake-up as a meaty, without counter hit.

I’ve noticed that jump in mk, cr.lp cr.lk > cr.mp xx soul sprial works, if you don’t cross the opponent up, and seems to work on most characters I have not tried all of them. But if you do cross them up using the same combo you have to use EX in order for it to connect. So it seems like a good thing to know if you want to mess with your opponent and not go for the expected cross up and land a BnB without using meter.

Any thoughts?

it’s somewhat character specific. It works on some but will whiff on other, I assume smaller chars, like sakura.

I’ll test it out on her out of curiosity.