Rose Combos and Glitches

Rose’s ultra is great. Honestly, its our Dragon Punch. Thats why I think its not a bad idea to know the match ups not only for the basics and how to approach them, but to really study ways to catch ultra. Its not a good idea to base your game around it, however there are things that make us go into certain “stances”, as I call them. A certain distance, I go into AA stance. On wake up, I’m ready for certain things. fireball fight takes anti-fireball stance.

do you know how many times someone has been close quarters and i move back a bit to go into anti air stance…see them go up…ultra.

But filipino, I do agree, i get beat by shit all day. Akumas dive kick timed correctly can bait ultra and beat it. I was piiiiised…lol.

Sounds like you play against a lot of bad players. (NO offense…I assume you are talking about online).

Who in the hell would jump or hurl a close fireball at rose when she has Ultra?

You will NOT land her ultra against solid players unless you combo into it, and then it gets scaled all to hell.

I regard it like Guile’s ultra…its just there to punish bad mistakes.

Guile’s ultra is a charge so its not even really a punish…

Guile’s ultra is the shittiest in the game, consider Rose has it lucky in that department.

i believe fei long cant even combo his ultra off of anything but FA crumple, at least to get all the hits in.

Few points:

  1. If you play guile and you do not have a db charge when you encounter a punish situation (whiffed dp, unsafe move on block, risky jumpin) you are doing it wrong. You need to have a charge at pretty much all times with Guile. He has normals that move him quickly forward and back without losing his db charge, most people just don’t use them enough.

  2. Guile can combo into his ultra, its tough, but its not impossible to make it happen.

  3. I think everyone can agree that Claw’s ultra is the worst in the game.

Parabellum is right here. That combo you guys are talking about is just a variant of the arcane fox combo in trial mode, it works but it will seldom happen.

  1. granted i dont play Guile, but of all the time ive played SF4, and i play in Japan at the cades, ive never seen anyone punish with an Ultra. of course there arnt that many Guiles but still…

  2. im sure a combo into ultra does pitiful damage, as it does crap damage without comboing

  3. At least you can punish fireball’s wit claw’s ultra, and it does decent damage too. but claw is the worst character in the game:sweat:

why isnt the video thread stickied anyways?

can we please save all this debate for when SSF4 comes out? At least I’m going to, since I feel much of this discussion prior to SSF4 will become obsolete.

i wonder what is CAPCOM thinking about our poor Rose… lets hope they not forget about her :sweat:

Yea guys, lets not debate on rose game play until the next installment comes out. We can’t be throwing ideas out. Best we wait a few months…

::sigh::

lmao

let it be known. this is how you get better.

lol.

Um…yeah I’ll be playing in at least two majors and several local tournaments before this next game comes out. Wonder what everyone will be emo about then.

Sarcasm… That just went over your head eh?

Internet sarcasm blind mixup.

Nah, I wouldn’t say that. I think it was pretty clear I was joking.

But seriously. That’s pretty silly, and that’s not the first time I’ve seen the “let’s not improve until ssf4” comment. Because that’s what that means…

Somethings will change, but knowledge is one of the key elements that makes a good player, why cut it off until new information is presented

Y’all, I wasn’t saying let’s not improve our game. I mean I’m still playing SF4, I was just seeing a lot of derailing, talking about who has the worst ultra etc…

Today I whiffed a jab through balrog’s head. He’s got the lamest hitboxes. - Glitch

Well… No. I think you are saying this talk of what rose can do, her ultra, Punishment options, throws, ect ect is in question due to ssf4s changes.

So why discuss her current attribute when it can all change in ssf4.

But I’m saying that a lot of things will change, and a lot of things won’t change. Better to know more and hve to adjust your information than to just have to learn it anyways.

Bison takes her Psycho Power, doesnt he… so will she be a regular gipsy in ssf4?

Actually he take the remaining left of him from when he was in Rose body before, take this with a grain of salt though as I read it off of a wiki and no official source to confirm this.

Theoretically, since the source of her strength stems from Dictator, if he took that, she would not have any power at all aside from whatever she was able to do before being imbued with Soul Power.

I think what will happen is that Super Street Fighter IV will completely ignore this ending unless Dictator imprisons her and makes her into an officer of Shadaloo to replace Sagat or something. Hah, Rose with Sagat’s strength… could you imagine?