Red Hot Combos: Combos/Resets Thread

[KayEyeDee]

that sounds like one of those, dont get put in that situation, situations.

triple or super jump so at least its just the assist getting blasted and not both of you.

Edit.
Im having issues with this infinite bomb assist thing. is there some special timing or way to block the bomb to keep the hit counter from going up? im doing the same exact combo as the first in this http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/12/umvc3-viewtiful-joes-bomb-assist-shenanigans/ combo, but I cant get joe to come out more than 1 time. halp?

[Zoogstin]

okay, i thought there was something to it.

Here’s a question, for those who have assists that cover aerial space (I have doom missles) that voomerangs can’t cover, how do you cover your assist. I found that more often than not, if I did a Voomerang in the air while calling an assist, without access to mach-speed in the air, there’s little to nothing I could do to prevent from getting tagged by a Bionic arm/Mag shockwave or another invincible super. How do you cover the assist in that situation?

Desperado will beat Bionic Arm. It has more invincibility frames than Bionic does active frames. But for other supers you just have to be more careful. There’s not other way around it.

[3nigmat1c]

Desperado will beat Bionic Arm. It has more invincibility frames than Bionic does active frames. But for other supers you just have to be more careful. There’s not other way around it.

That’s what I was thinking, it’s just that he’s more likely to pass under you (if you’re full-screen) and even though you get to move around first, you’re forced to burn x-factor if he does to avoid being punished/losing your assist as they’ll already be at 50% after getting tagged. I’ve used Desperado to beat Gimlet as well (if you don’t want to hard-tag).

thanks.

[KayEyeDee]

desperado beats gimlet on reaction consistently, its pretty boss.

its also has more durability than gimlet so if they clash, joe will win there too.

[3nigmat1c]

Also found out that Desperado will beat 6 of Sent’s 9 missiles when he does his super. Had a friend who’d always DHC into Sent missiles to beat mach-speed, might come in handy.

Also found out that with Doom if he does an OTG st.c into sphere flame, you can DHC into joe really early and it’ll hit along with sphere flame giving Joe an opportunity to set up an incoming mix-up or to set a bomb on the ground etc when an opponents coming in. Although this will probably never happen, some characters like amaterasu are so short that when you do st.c xx sphere flame while their standing it’ll whiff, if you DHC into mach-speed, it’ll knock them into sphere flame.

[eldruz]

Hey, new Viewtiful Joe user here!

I just found out a way to extend the BnB reaching 825.100 damage with 2 supers and the Rocket Racoon wall bounce assist. I didn’t had time to test the idea extensively yet and I’m sure this can be refined which is why I post it here ^^.

So anyway, the only requirement for this combo to work is to be far from the corner, otherwise the wallbounce whiffes. I perform the BnB, starting with c.M,s.H,c.H xx M.GU and finishing with the Zoogstin ender, then I dash forward while calling the assist and do an OTG Desperado. The assist hits, the opponents bounces off the wall and I have time to launch a second Desperado, netting the 820k mark. It’s really easy to do, and it’s a nice way to add some damage after the BnB if you have the bars.

My first idea was to try this in the corner, and have either a Mach Speed or a Slow to hit after the wall bounce, but as if, the timing needs to be adjusted so that the assist hits properly. I didn’t try other wall bounce assist either due to lack of time.

EDIT: Okay I found 5 minutes to test it a bit more. I did perform it in the corner, however I didn’t manage to link a second super.

[Shintarru]

Not to be rude but that’s already known.

[3nigmat1c]

Went ahead and made a video of the DHC relaunch from Mach Speed. I remember the initial argument being that most Joe players play him on point, but the technology is there.

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Medium Damage, only lvl1 X-factor when used.

Viewtiful Joe’s mach-speed can be used to launch your opponent and continue the combo in the air. This is often done while Joe is on point, but can also be done when DHCing into mach-speed from another hyper combo. To some teams, this may add an ability to do more damage without X-factor. This is extremely useful for characters with fly TAC combos e.g. Dr. Strange, Magneto, Sentinel, Dormammu, etc.

To do this, the following conditions must be met:

1. Perform a combo that doesn’t use any wall or ground bounces (in testing this seems to automatically add too much Hit Stun Deterioration to continue comboing until the TAC.
2. Minimal number of hits meaning that you have to maximize your damage in as few hits as possible.
3. Build 2 bars of meter before the initial Hyper Combo cancel. (this obviously means for most characters the combo will be negative, but given the ridiculous amount of meter that TAC combos build, a successful TAC may make the combo meter neutral/positive.

Combo Transcript:

1. Viewtiful Joe - Frank West
   j.s, cr.a, cr.c xx m.upper j.b xx m.rhk, air l.voomerang, (land) dash j.b, j.c xx m.rhk, adf, j.c xx m.rhk, h.rhk, (land) delayed mach-speed (launch), j.c, TAC down, j.b, j.c xx l.tools, j.b xx l.tools, j.b xx l.tools, S (land) snapshot xx Survival Tools DHC God Hand.

2)Frank West - Viewtiful Joe
fwd.throw, Blue Light Special DHC Mach-Speed, (launch), j.c, TAC up, j.b, j.c, j.s
[More hits/damage are possible after mach-speed, e.g. air joe]

3)Frank West - Viewtiful Joe
cr.a, st.b, st.c, cr.c, S, j.b xx l.tools, j.c (land), j.b, j.c, j.s, dash, snapshot xx Blue Light Special DHC Mach-speed, j.c, TAC right, j.b, j.b, j.c xx l.tools, j.b xx l.tools, j.b xx l.tools, j.s (land) wavedash, snapshot xx Survival Tools

4. Dr. Doom - Viewtiful Joe
   j.b(2), cr.a, cr.b, st.c(2), S, j.b(2), j.b(2), f+c, j.s, ADD, j.c (whiff), nj-h.plasma xx Photon Array DHC Mach Speed (launch), j.c, TAC up, j.b(2), j.b(2), f+h, ADF, j.b(2) xx fly, j.b(2), j.b(2), ADF, j.b(2), j.b(2), ADF, j.b(2), j.b(2), j.c (falling), j.b(2), j.b(1) xx h.plasma xx Photon Array

5. Dr. Doom - Viewtiful Joe
   j.b(2), cr.a, cr.b, cr.c, S, j.b(1), f+c, ADDF, j.b (land) XF, j.b(2), j.b(1) xx Photon Array DHC Mach Speed (launch), j.c TAC up, j.b(2), j.b(2), f+h, ADF, j.b(2) xx fly, j.b(2), j.b(2), ADF, j.b(2), j.b(2), ADF, j.b(2), j.b(2), j.c (falling), j.b(1) [Dropped combo, difficult/impossible in XF)

6. Frank West - Viewtiful Joe - Dr. Doom (Hidden Missiles)
   j.s, cr.a, st.b, c.b, st.c, XFC, cr.a, cr.b, cr.c, s+A2, j.b, j.b, j.c, j.s, (land) dash snapshot (missiles hit), snapshot xx Survival Tools DHC, Mach Speed, (launch) j.c xx TAC up, j.b xx l.tools, j.b xx l.tools, j.b xx l.tools, j.s (land) snapshot xx ST
   [This combo takes Frank from lvl1 to lvl3 guaranteed, lvl3 to lvl5 if you successfully hit the TAC. Also it only requires one meter, is also meter neutral if you down TAC. Up TAC may be required against most of the cast because of Joe’s limbs and Dorm’s huge hurtbox]

[KayEyeDee]

Just want to let you guys know that Im testing some ways to maximise Joes damage off of air to air hits.

DP H is a lot better than most people are giving it credit for right now.

[3nigmat1c]

quick question: somewhere i’ve seen Joe do an air series after TAC involving j.b, j.b, j.c xx l.air joe, dj.b, dj.b, dj.c xx l.air joe etc, something of that nature, is anyone aware of this or am I wayy left field?

[KayEyeDee]

Joe can do almost anything out of a TAC because hitstunn scaling is no longer a factor.

My TAC combo is:

M, H, L air joe mashed twice (so it counts as one special move), H, double jump, M, H, triple jump, M, M, H, H Airjoe, Desperado.

[3nigmat1c]

awesome, you have to do the j.h, dj.m, dj.h, tj.m so that the character gets back to the right height so you can air joe with out them faillng out?

[KayEyeDee]

Yea, that’s what makes it work on every character for me.

On dudes like rocky and ammy, you might have to replace the double L air joe with one medium version. But that’s only if you’re really unconfident

And I’m still working on it, but you might be able to get even more air joe on characters like sent and nemmy.

[HvisLysetTarAustin]

I saw a combo earlier in regards to Sentinel. It has a couple Air Joes in it. What other characters require this combo? I’m having a really hard time with Dormammu, especially in the corner. Am I not timing this correctly if it continues to drop?

[KayEyeDee]

Im not sure what you are refering to, but the normal bnb for joe doesnt work on sent…

[3nigmat1c]

You can use: m.upper, j.c, dj.b, dj.c, dj.s xx h.rhk, st.b, st.c, S etc against Sent, you ca also do mach-speed after the H.rhk. I think you can do the regular bnb into mach-speed, just not S. (I also think that both of those are true for the entire cast, but i haven’t tried it on everyone)

[KayEyeDee]

the combo I use on sent i think is better.

M upper, H, dj M, H, M red hot kick, air dash, M, H, M red hot kick, H red hot kick.

That will combo into launcher.

[HvisLysetTarAustin]

That’s what I’m saying - the Sentinel specific combo with the two Air Joes, I have trouble with that one. I also have trouble with Dormammu. That’s all I was saying. Both your guys’ combos work. Thanks

Except 3nigmat1c I had to alter yours, because I couldn’t figure out how to do three double jumps after the M uppercut

[TimTim]

So a couple of questions:

1. I’ve seen the frank reset with camera>call joe uppercut assist>into grab hyper.
   -So how do you get out of that and what characters can?
2. When doing joe’s combos in air like j:m::h: double jump j:m::h:… what is the input for the jump? Can I just hold up or do I have to dash up or can I push the stick up once?

[HvisLysetTarAustin]

One new question on Joe: When ending my combo in the air with L Air Joe -> S, why does this drop so often? Is there a specific relative height I should try for when hitting either in particular? I’ve been using the same combo, only minus Air Joe in the meantime, but it would be nice to have that bit of extra damage and meter.