"Put down the Flowchart, Scrub!" Ken Video Thread

Ikaru · April 6, 2011, 8:03am

Yeah you’re right lol. I told him in stream chat to get out of my head. I literally felt like the only way to beat him is to make the right decisions and utilize every trick/gimmick/safe-jump I knew. Which I didn’t. Hope I can play more viper’s of his caliber soon.

King_D · April 6, 2011, 8:35am

I’ve been playin latif for a long time now and iam just happy if I get rounds on him. Usually after playin someone for a while id at least be able to read them . His though process and his Setups seem impossible to figure out but the most success if had is just to not let him breathe at all and bait anything u can. But like I said I only have ever gotten a few matches and most of those was a long time ago when he didn’t know anything bout kara throws

Westlo · April 10, 2011, 2:48am

MOVs coming to Shadowloo Showdown 2k11 for 3rd Strike along with that godlike 3s Ken Deshiken. I still haven’t seen MOV’s Ken in action in AE so I’ll definitely get some vids of him from the tourney via phone if he’s not on stream (like he wouldn’t be). Oh yeah Playerjun52 is coming as well and Momochi got confirmed a few weeks back… don’t know who Momochi will play though… his Makoto is sick, his Ken has the most points and he’s been playing Cody lately.

GetTheFruit · April 10, 2011, 5:48pm

You lucky people in australia!! :crybaby::crybaby:
Please please stalk playerjun and record EVERY match :love: I’ll pay you money :P!

lilsicx66 · April 10, 2011, 8:39pm

Playerjun is dope but. I need som dboy wao and saturisksan or however u spell his name lol

Ryuken9 · April 12, 2011, 10:13am

Haven’t heard of Sutoraikesan or however the fuck you spell his name in quite awhile, I like Momochi Ken better.

G77 · April 12, 2011, 2:20pm

Sutoraikusan…

I haven’t seen/heard from him nor Kichijyojiken in ages.

Both were extremely proficient Ken’s.

black_vegeta · April 13, 2011, 2:57am

Wao and -6 (Akuma is his main) in a recent tourney.

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Takamura13 · April 13, 2011, 6:20pm

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Guile practice with a buddy of mine i need help in the matchup tips/criticise welcome

kstoute · April 13, 2011, 10:18pm

i think you should go u1 instead i doubt your gonna punish a boom with U2

GetTheFruit · April 13, 2011, 11:57pm

Love your ken and your playstyle keep it up and you have the potential to be one of the best kens, in my opinion (=. I ONLY have 1 critique and it’s you should go for more guaranteed setups and step up the kenVSguilevortex:

GetTheFruit:

Vortex:-
After kara throw:
walk back a tiny bit and either j.lk OR jump-in LATE heavy tatsu crossup, these two mixups are too ambiguous and beats all of his wake up options, reversal flash kick auto corrects but ken lands in front, which gives you a free punish, if he blocks then do cr.lk and instantly kara throw, this usually catches guile off guard, and rewind. If he gets hit, finish your combo with heavy shoryuken if hes crouching, and finish it with tatsu if he’s standing.

After heavy shoryuken: ( quick stand )
1- crossup light tatsu , this stuffs reversals and backdash, if he gets hit then continue your combos ( end with srk if hes crouching, tatsu if hes standing ). If he blocks the light tatsu crossup then do a cr.lk and then instantly kara throw, trust me, they never expect a kara throw at this point.
2- another option is dash forward and get a meaty cr.lk > cr.lp ( OS sweep or U2 ) to stuff every wake up option he has except flash kick.
3- Dash and then crouch close to him, do a VERY late double-tap crouch tech, outcomes are : flashkicks gets blocked, normals gets blocked, throw gets teched, back dash gets stuffed by cr.lk and guile resets in the air.
After the air reset you can also do option 2 and 3 above or surprise him with a kara throw just when he lands. If guild doesn’t quick stand, best option is option 3.

After ex tatsu combo:
1- cr.lk > cr.lp OS sweep > combo , outcomes are: grab gets stuffed, back dash gets swept but flash kick wins.
2-hold back and do a late grab, outcomes are : if he grabs you tech it, if you blocks thinking you’d shoryuken you’ll backthrow him, flashkick gets blocked, loses to backdash and cr.lk.

After backthrow:
1- meaty light hadoken > ex hadoken ( 3-hit combo ) > HOLD DOWN BACK, and if blocked its a true, unjump-able block string, outcomes are: backdash gets hit by hadoken flashkick gets blocked. The down side to this is he can just block and make you lose 1 ex meter, but its not necessary to do the ex hadoken.
2- Whiff st.lk ( for timing ) then jump heavy tatsu ( hits infront, meaty ) , makes flash kicks whiff, but can be crouched under, and backdashed out of, you can do light tatsu at the apex of the jump but i prefer heavy tatsu.
3- walk forward and jump crossup light tatsu, ( refer to vortex after heavy shoryu).

After anti-air mid shoryuken:
1- The late crouch tech trick. ( refer to vortex after heavy shoryu) .
2- meaty cr.lk OS sweep or U2.( refer to vortex after heavy shoryu).

PS:
This does not mean that the matchup is easy, its still a guessing game, with footsies and patience and so much patience.
There is also an ambiguous jump-in jab trick after forward throw, it only crosses up if guile presses nothing, it also makes flash kicks whiff, but j.lk/heavy tatsu is always better.
And you can also do some of the shoryuken knockdown follow ups after throw

Other than that, your ken is Superb, good job :tup:.

Thank you thank you thank you for posting these matches. Wao is always fun to watch, and I always learn something new!

lilsicx66 · April 14, 2011, 9:20am

Just watchd like 5 or 6 vids of wao in ae,so glad he’s back he was always my favorite playernow let’s just get ready for our character to be whored since he’s good no.

Ryuken9 · April 14, 2011, 10:42am

Ken is mostly played by noobs, at least from my experience online.

Westlo · April 15, 2011, 4:26pm

Man -6 has a 25k bp Ken too? His Akuma is 38K, his Cammy 37K and he has a 35k Evil Ryu.

Anyway thanks for the vids, good shit.

G77 · April 17, 2011, 10:07pm

It’s super cool to see that Wao has started using my FTK and TTK follow up technique!!!

I wonder if he read it here (like most pro’s do), or if he just figured it out for himself…

/sarcasm.

But seriously, it is nice to see something that I feel like I “came up with” being used in high level play. It kinda justifies my logic in a way.

Cool vids.

Peace,

G.

0ShinAkuma0 · April 18, 2011, 1:52am

[media=youtube]oLTnmSX7CR0]YouTube - Playerjun52 [Ken] vs WafflyBug [Bison[/media]

I love wao, but Playerjun / Bon will always be my favorite.

kstoute · April 18, 2011, 2:40am

you da best mayne

yourboycurt · April 18, 2011, 3:52am

Found a cool option select against bison. Just recorded it from the 3DS version. Uploading now

yourboycurt · April 18, 2011, 6:04am

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Sorry for the quality I left the 3D on

yourboycurt · April 18, 2011, 6:05am

It has to be the head press not devil reverse. He recovers quicker with devil reverse