Supposed to, but law says they don’t have to nor are they obligated. Funny
This may sound harsh but black people do not NEED white people for most of our causes. What black people NEED is to practice group economics more (myself included). This is not to say we can’t collaborate and develop things with other races but to solve most black issues first and foremost group economics is needed. This would help create wealth in the black community and likely lessen issues that the dominate society sweeps under the rug constantly such as the fact that blacks have double the unemployment of whites for at least the past 30 years and our incarceration rate.
On a side note though as much as I respect MLK Jr. he gets way too much credit. As Chris Rock said in comedy skit once all they teach you in many public schools is MLK this, MLK that, Rosa Parks this, Rosa Parks that which is cool. However, it breeds people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (who have done some good) but for the most part don’t urge more progressive reaction from black people. Their solutions are generally wait for the justice system and non-violence is the right thing to do (which isn’t always the case). What schools fail to teach are the thinkings of people like Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Fredrick Douglas and Huey Newton all of whom I think were much more progressive than King (at least in their thinking).
The problem is they packaged and nerfed MLK into a family friendly figure. MLK was huge anti war, anti capitalist, and the FBI stalked him as a result. Wouldn’t be surprised if hoover ordered his assasination too. They just focus on one aspect of his life’s work.
No, I can’t say for sure what happened, and neither can you. Neither can the people who immediately scream racism any time a black person is involved with the law, as if a black man being arrested/beaten/shot is ipso facto proof of a sinister structure of prejudice, rather than the man having done something that would get anybody else arrested/beaten/shot. We don’t even know for certain that Brown actually had his hands up, this is based off of one witness’ statement- one witnesses’ statement in such a case doesn’t hold much water. Yes the guy was unarmed, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t fighting for the cop’s gun (which as said, is basically guaranteed to get anyone shot). Maybe the witness’ story is 100% accurate- I don’t know. I do know that rioting and looting as happened in this scenario are pretty fucking counter productive.
Racism is being shouted prematurely because society loves to play the victim. Nothing bad that happens is related to your own actions, and if it is, it’s because society pushed you into those choices. It’s the exact same phenomenon the author of that book I linked you to describes in England (which I can’t recommend strongly enough, given your apparent passion for the subject, some hugely valuable perspective to be had there) except nobody there can use race as the scapegoat. Furthermore, immediately (and prematurely) screaming racism at every perceived opportunity discredits the claim immensely, more so when the clown revs Jackson and Sharpton are dragged out, and even further when things reach the riot/looting point. Just like the boy who cries wolf, the label gets thrown around so haphazardly that it’s hard to believe when it actually is valid.
Do you really think the police immediately giving answers would sate the crowd if the answers weren’t exactly what they wanted to hear? How about you specifically? If there was evidence showing that Martin was being apprehended for a valid reason, that Martin fought and struggled for the gun, and that Martin was shot in the process, would you believe it, or would you continue to cling to the testimony you want to believe? I don’t know about you specifically, but I would be willing to bet every dime I own that most people towing the line of “unarmed black teen shot unprovoked with his hands up” would stick to their guns regardless, because it’s what they want to believe.
On economics, frankly I don’t have the time to veer further down that trail at the moment. I can, however, highly recommend Thomas Sowell’s writings on the topic of race and economics (in addition to all of his other writings). If you don’t have the time to read much, there are many videos of him debating and lecturing on youtube. Suffice to say, I believe your views on economics are grossly oversimplified based on our discussion so far.
You are correct that property rights mean nothing if the ultimate private property (your body) isn’t safe from outside aggressors, be it public (police, politicians, etc) or private (individuals). However, even if we assume that all cops are racist assholes looking for any excuse to gun down black men (which is a ridiculous idea), do you really believe that cops create more violence in neighborhoods than the people themselves (whose actions in turn assure a heavier police presence)? I’m not giving police a pass here, my point is that the community is so busy pointing fingers at outside forces that it ignores things within its control (which would rationally reduce police presence as well). Black on back crime being high is a fact nationwide. Yes, it’s down (like pretty much all crime), but it’s still extremely high statistically speaking.
On the last statement, I’ll again direct you to Thomas Sowell and * Life on the Bottom *, I don’t have time to keep writing.
Well the united states was found guilty in conspiring to kill mlk in 1999, but, like no one talks about that at all. So there is that 
Okay, let’s not just leave this little nugget here for everyone to read. It was in civil court where you can sue for someone blowing bubbles.
Lets focus on the positive.
Think of all the free stuff those people got.
Yes, a young man lost his life, but some dude probably got a gameboy or something.
His death means many people can be happy.
As a whole, it is a net gain.
Well lets also not leave your usual nugget of nothing that you always offer on srk, as you walk around pounding your chest to the rhythm of your own stupidity, masked as trolling.
The government denied their (kings family) criminal trial, as of course they would, also denying their request for independent investigation. When you believe your government has murdered your father, brother, etc…, just because you arent GRANTED a criminal trial, shouldnt immediately illegitamize the following civil suit, and civil trial that the government was found guilty in conspiring to murder MLK.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/01/mlk-assassinated-us-govt-king-family-civil-trial-verdict.html
There is more then enough information there for you to not read, which maybe you should. Maybe in reading it you can find something to motivate you to write outside of std’s, alcohol, bum friends, shitty hipster bars filled with other wannabe writers, stealing tecate, opiates, and worn clothing from 70s punk rock bands that werent even the fathers of punk rock (Yeah, black people did that too).
Away with you now, go back to trolling the 18 year olds in other threads where they know no better.
Also, for those who are curious
I like you, Raz0r. I’d like to keep it that way.
You know why no one can say what actually happened? Because the government and police in that area are refusing to talk. They said they would release the name of the shooter who shot Brown but the have not done so. They are even trying to put limits on media access and the protests themselves. How does it look to anyone that the government and police force are providing little to no answers? You can make all the scenarios you want about Brown but the simple fact is you can’t really get anything other than witness accounts of what happened. That is the fault of the government and police force because they could get out and reveal what happened if they wanted to but are refusing to do it.
As far as racism goes you say that **“nothing bad that happens is related to your own actions, and if it is, it’s because society pushed you into those choices.” ** Well, black people in the community have their own issues but the actions of the society as a whole pushes many black people into making choices that they do. It’s not that far fetched to assume there are racist and discriminatory practices out there when, as I keep saying, blacks have had double the unemployment of whites for the past 30 years. The incarceration and arrest rates of black men are far greater than those of white men, and government related functions that help black people such as school funding are greatly reduced in areas compared to many of their other school district counterparts. You can’t say nothing bad happens is related to your own actions, that’s just a stupid statement. However, the statistics out there on things on what I mentioned above have a direct effect on the condition of the black community. By the way, as far as Jackson and Sharpton goes they are scape goats.
Most black people are aware they never encourage real change. You said they were clowns yourself. You think that is by chance that at every major black uprising they are there? It’s all a front and while you may not like it, it’s not like America has a whole has been welcoming to black men who want significant forceful change like Garvey, Newton, and Malcolm.
Regarding your question though about how I feel personally about them giving answers I think it would have produced a much calmer result. You have an area where this happened and people are protesting and burning buildings and you can’t even get the president to address that it is going on until well after it has started, and you can’t get the local government to do anything except get cops on the streets. You asked a lot of questions about what about Martin this or Martin that and how I feel about it if the government provided answers. Based on what we know (which is very little) I would still feel there was no reason to kill Brown, but it’s funny how you worded that last paragraph because there is little evidence and my basis is that the government is not acting while others are focusing on the looting which is ridiculous. While that paragraph gives off the impression that is given often that many of these black kids that are killed or arrested are somehow always aggressive and always fighting back.
The economics are oversimplified sure but based on history it’s safe to assume you cannot depend on the dominate society to solve the economic woes of black people. In order to do that black people have to practice group economics. Other races have done it and continue to do it and economics is the only way to really get black people out of the issues we have now. You say that the community is pointing fingers and ignores what it has control of but it doesn’t control many of the things that I mentioned above like government spending, the increase arrest rate and it’s unemployment. This is all because black people have lack of an economic base. Economics controls everything and because blacks, as a whole, have depended on the dominant society to provide economically for decades it has hurt the community as a whole.
I WANT MORE RIOTS
In case you were wondering why the cops showed up with a war arsenal, read this, it may be the answer:
Hurt ego or not if I were one of the protesters I’d be walking away. All it takes is for one idiot from the crowd to do something foolish, chaos starts and shit hits the fan.
People tend to lose their rationality and get carried away easily when participating inside of a big mob.
This is a case of be smart rather than right.
Kotaku trying to piggyback on it for clicks
This is a new low, even for them.
I’m still not seeing a need for assault vehicles designed to withstand land mines, but what do I know?
Also wonder if theres a feedback loop in action here. Obviously you deploy police to quell riots, but is there any possibility that a disproportionate response intensifies things, particularly in a case where people are police action sparked the riot?
Tear gas is being fired and looting is getting worse.
If any SRK peeps are in St. Louis, please be safe and be extremely cautious if you have to go out.
Man, cops in Ferguson should just let this go and give it to the FBI or whoever takes over above the city level. Cops are just not handling this right. I was watching a video of a protest tonight and the police were mobilizing like goddamn ISIS was about to invade the town.
I read an article not that long ago about the militarization of the police, buying up all sorts of surplus goods from the military. It’s unreal. How do we not limit the arming of civilian police? I’m all good for a special S.W.A.T. team to handle situations like the bank robbers in California or any heavily-armed militia, but this is insane.
Can the revolution start now?
And yet the Black population is still climbing.
Corrupt cops are a desperate attempt at population control.