Protest followed by massive looting in STL

Point blank in a police vehicle is not 150 feet.

When your firearm is already drawn, you don’t have time to holster it and switch to a taser. A gunshot to the hand didn’t stop Brown, so downgrading to a Taser is downright irresponsible.

Well, thinking about the struggle in the car, you don’t think that given Wilson’s position, Brown wasn’t able to exert the full force of his punches? Punching into a somewhat confined space combined with Wilson probably trying to dodge the strikes probably resulted in minor injuries vs major injuries had Brown managed to get full powered strikes in.

I’m not making any conclusions here, but rather trying to explore the details some more.

This. The evidence we are getting seems to justify Wilson’s actions imo, however it seems to be a misuse of the grand jury system. I have never heard of a grand jury case going about like this one (though I dont know Missouri state laws). Although the protestors are likely mostly complete idiots, the people defending the decision to not indict are glossing over this. The grand jury case does not constitute a trial itself.

I don’t think the evidence we’re getting justifies it. If anything they shed a weighty amount of doubt on his entire story:

  • The other eye-witness (Michael Brown’s friend who was with him) account doesn’t corroborate with Wilson’s account.

  • Physical evidence doesn’t corroborate Wilson’s account, but does corroborate with the second eye-witness’. Mostly the released pictures of Wilson’s injuries.

  • A lot of doubt has been cast on the grand jury process, by many people representing both sides, some within the legal community.

LOL, thats that shit i be talking about. Struggle over a gun, but no testing for fingerprints on the gun to validate that, because, “uh, its the officers gun, why would we do that”. TO VALIDATE HIS NARRATIVE YOU FUCKING IDIOT. At least try.

2 or 3 of these are definitely note worthy. Like, ur dur.

Incompetence at best

If you got killed for every stupid decision you made as a kid how many times would you have died?

You dont see evidence? Go to the packet. We know that wilson has bruises on his face and neck and iirc, at least one witness corroborated the story. You can’t just huff and puff, the stuff is there for everybody to see. Find some glaring errors in it. Otherwise hold the L since anything not involving the evidence is bullshit.

Black people and dumb libs are upset because this thug of a kid got killed by cop. I say Good riddance. This has nothing to do with the kid being black. If the kid was white and did the same thing I wound not have sympathy.

How can you puff your chest out, that to my knowledge 7-8 black witnesses have corroborated wilsons story, out of the 60 that were interviewed? Are we now just assuming the other 52 witnesses had nothing of value to say, or are assumed to all be some of those whose stories had flip flopped over time? We havent heard shit about any of the witnesses who didnt flip flop, or who offered a different valuable and credible narrative of what they saw, that conflicts with some part of wilsons statement.

Cmon son. Sometimes it seems you are reaching too much in this case just to yell at people here. People are in this thread arguing over a fairly one sided point of view about what the grand jury was presented to base their decision over, which has raised huge questionable flags of ethics.

I mean, i get it, we all have our biases, and its hard not to lean on them sometimes, but damn. One cop says this happened to me, and less then 6 percent of the people who were interviewed seemed to corroborate that story, and all of a sudden its absolute truth, even when we know little to nothing about the other witnesses, other then that some of them flip flopped their story. For all i know, some of those 6 percent that backed wilsons story werent being legit themselves. We can assume all day, but just saying, some people in this thread seem to be assuming the best, and for odd, or unknown reasons.

I assume the worst in general a lot, i know, but…fuck it, got shit to do. gotta go.

idgaf about the evidence at the end of the day it shows he took a couple licks it looks far from an ass whooping thats for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAEHZ3eT7fM&list=PL9hNbo_Ztnr9kyeIy53_uudXtRPTbOjAw

Lets see, we can: examine the pamphlet given to us with all the witness testimony and evidence or go around saying dumb shit because of how you feel. Which is better? The problem you dudes are having is that the state is saying physical evidence backs up Officer Wilson’s claims. This means that, because of the grand jury decision, you guys have to explain why the physical evidence doesn’t. If the physical evidence explains something else then it is on the people who want him indicted to prove it.

I’m not reaching at anything. If you want to show that things were one sided you have transcripts for the proceedings: prove it.

Are you even trying to understand what you are being told at this point? 6 bullets is what you use to protect yourself from a giant person high on drugs trying to assault you. Weaker measures, even just one bullet, don’t tend to work on huge, drugged people during fight or flight, and its well documented.

Who is responsible for Mike Brown’s safety? The answer is first and foremost- Mike Brown himself. And by assaulting a police officer he threw away his own life.

assaulting a police officer? gtfo so are we saying that getting into a fight with someone means one of the people in the fight should die.

my stupid decisions as a kid never involved trying to fight police, or steal the gun off a guy who is wielding it. Whenever a cop has talked to me, I’ve just told them things as best I could, didn’t try to bullshit them.

Too many people think cops are as dumb as them, and then think they can try to fight them like some other random fool on Worldstar, so they can youtube it or whatever. Like I say every time a cop has to whup somebodies ass, or God forbid, shoot them to defend themselves and the public: Just fucking do what you’re told, if you want to argue that shit, do it at a later time, when you won’t get shot like an idiot.

When cause physical harm to somebody with intent to hurt them, yes, its called assault. We aren’t saying that it should’ve ended in somebody’s death, but that once Mike Brown assaulted the officer, he allowed for that to be a possibility. Moral of the Story: Don’t hit cops.

when am I ever sober?

No WE allow for that to be a possibility when we say its acceptable. The Police are public servants OUR employees. This shit will continue to happen as long as we have people who think like this

This is just this page

Mike Brown may have made mistakes the magnitude of said mistakes may be subjective but the one thing thats objective is that he ended no lives and was not going to end any lives.

Mike Brown will never get to pay for his mistakes.

Mike Brown will not get to exercise his god given right to grow and change.

Mike Brown will never get the chance to speak for himself.

Mike Brown is dead and there’s no coming back from that.

Mike Brown’s death is not justified.

It’s you and me and the rest of the world who have to live with that.

Can you all really live with the fact that justice has been undermined and all you have to say is good riddance.

No wonder our country is broken it is evidently more the fault of the negligence and indifference of the people than the malice of its leaders that so many place blame on.

May God bless all of you, I pray you never fall victim to these injustices you condone.

pretty big difference between getting into a drunken brawl with some dude you caught staring at a girl you’re interested in, and picking a fight with somebody that has been put in charge of keeping EVERYBODY safe.

If I run up to an army base and start attacking the guards, should they just ignore me or not put me down? They only have heavy weapons and explosives there, but fuck it, we should be a society of pussies, just tickling 6 foot behemoth’s into submission, while they wail on us while high on PCP, and try to steal our weapons and END OUR FUCKING LIVES.

you must be new to this whole “arguing intelligently” thing. But keep on clutching at straws when you come up with your awful analogies, I do need the laugh!