I’ve seen good cops, I’ve seen bad cops, I’ve had cops treat me like shit because, when I’m fully bearded, it looks like I’m an ISIS recruiter. For the most part I don’t like cops and the power they wield without having any respect for. That said, you don’t have to suck a cop’s dick in any way, shape or form. Following directions and letting him know of what you’re doing is all you need to do. You can be as rude as you want so long as you are complying with directions. Mike Brown obviously didn’t do any of that shit otherwise he would’ve been in the cop car on his way to the police station.
Cop pulls you over, answer the questions, cross your Xs and dot your Is. If he was doing some shady shit, contact internal affairs and go through the process. If its bad enough (like the asswhooping my friend got) then remain calm, call some friends, take some pictures of EVERYTHING and get a lawyer so you can take them for a ride. At no point should you threaten the police officer. They do have to deal with crazy shit on the daily. Yeah, some of them are real assholes on a power trip but that doesn’t change the fact that their job is dangerous as all hell. Most of them are not looking for trouble but the nature of their job will inherently piss people off.
The more you cocksuckers keep posturing the more likely it’ll be that life will set you on your ass in the realist way possible. Do not give them an excuse; if you don’t, all there is left is their fuck up.
There were only unconfirmed reports from less than reliable sources that Wilson had an eye fracture. His injuries were definitely light, looking like a bruised lip, bruised cheek (although I can’t remember), and some sort of abrasion on the back of his head (Brown probably trying to grab him I guess). The claims of a struggle within the vehicle match up with his injuries (albeit light) and the evidence within the car.
So, material facts of the case that show that Brown wasn’t a “gentle giant” get ignored, but completely baseless allegations (I’m talking about the church burning here) get published, because they feed into the media’s sensationalistic, race baiting narrative.
(Your use of “u” for “you” in a post where you comment on “lack of education” as a uniquely American problem better be intentional irony or you being drunk again, @SoVi3t.)
For the record, whatever got edited wasn’t touched by me. In fact, I keep missing stuff somehow, so I have no idea what was actually there and it won’t show me who touched since the only posts I can see that you guys can’t are in my own forum.
Slur aside, I agree with this general sentiment despite also not trusting cops (or, really, anyone with power). As such, I’m only quoting this post to comment on what I put in bold: while what you say is of course sensible, quite a few people feel like the cops–well, the ones who are actually bad/power-hungry/corrupt/inept–are pretty much never punished for “their fuck up”. Even in the most egregious circumstances and when you (or your relatives or friends after you’re deceased) go through all the proper channels and taking a fucking selfie with every single piece of relevant evidence, we’ve all heard of instances where police get off scot-free in instances where they are pretty clearly guilty.
I’m not saying this particular instance counts–I don’t think it does, if only because there’s such ambiguity over what actually happened since eyewitnesses are rarely worth a damn. I’m just pointing out why some people are understandably frustrated with being told to “try and try again” when it hasn’t worked out for them, even if that obviously doesn’t justify the violence occurring.
Then again, given your apparent run-ins with bad police officers, you no doubt already know this even if things worked out in your case, so I apologize if saying the obvious is coming off as condescending.
Whether or not they get punished consistently is besides the point. A lot of criminals don’t get punished consistently; a cop’s criminal behavior would be subject to the same thing. Thing is though, when you engage a cop, the only thing you have control over is your actions. As such it is imperative that anything and everything you do while dealing with a cop is done in the most proper way possible. The moment you lose your cool and do something dumb, you are opening up different options for them to handle things. Once a cop is talking to you, your actions will determine the how he does things. Some cops are criminal, some are incompetent some are just bad at their job. Therefore strangleholding their options for dealing with you by using good behavior is imperative. If you are doing what you are supposed to, the less likely it is for him to get away with anything. Stack things on your end with good behavior.
As it is I don’t like the ideas of cop. The function contrary to the way american courts are supposed to work: an invested observer can accuse you of a crime while being a credible witness for it. What the fuck kind of shit is that? There are reasons why that needs to be said way but it leads to a lot of minor (and some major) abuse. It is very evident by the happenings in Ferguson that schools really should teach kids how to deal with cops. Government is fine as a class. A class teaching high schoolers how the law actually works would lead to better results overall. Ironically enough, this wouldn’t help the black community since they have high drop out rates. So all that a class on law would do is ensure that the good kids who aren’t getting shot stay not getting shot.
Before we even touch the problem of whether or not Internal Affairs is worth a damn, the black community has enough issues within itself that it needs to spend fixing. The Puerto Rican and Mexican communities are in the same trip too; all things considered we are all kinda worthless. Fixing those international issues would do wonders for fixing the external ones.
These protestors nationwide are all fucking hypocrites. Where were they when Treyvon Martin got killed? Where were they when that Native American woodcarver got killed in Seattle???
So is 6 bullets in him a reasonable punishment for stealing a couple cigars? I’m not saying Mike Brown was an angel, but you avoided my last post. Is getting killed a logical result of stealing cigars?
Getting killed is a logical result of assaulting a police officer. For better or worse, people need to start looking at the evidence given to the grand jury and examining that. If there is any fault to be found, it would be in the way evidence was presented and/or handled. The evidence shows that Officer Wilson was assaulted while in his vehicle and that Brown turned around and charged him; so yes, 6 bullets might’ve been sufficient at that point (as unfortunate as this all is).
I guess your definition of “wrestle” and mine vary. I don’t see it as “wrestling” when one of the “combatants” is 150 feet away. Again, not saying Mike Brown was an angel, but still, he didn’t deserve 6 slugs in him if he was in fact that far away from Wilson when he was shot dead.
The video Tataki posted said that there’s a logical progression of force when dealing with someone aggressive, which includes going from bare hands, to pepper spray, taser, to full on firearms.
I haven’t seen any evidence of Wilson being assaulted yet. Those pics that have been going around don’t include anything that remotely resembles taking shots from a guy of Mike Brown’s size. Dude looks like he got a sunburn at worst. Again, I’m not saying I don’t see it from his side, but at the same time, he has the most to lose if he’s proven to be lying.