Protest followed by massive looting in STL

Man I’m not even sure if that would have made a difference looking at the Walmart shooting case which had a full video of the incident and the police got off. Granted false detailed were called in by that idiot, he should have been fined too or something.

I remember reading months back the none of Ferguson’s patrol cars had a dashcam, which is bullshit. Dashcams with mics should be mandatory for all police vehicles.

Whoop an officer’s ass, fail to comply, charge at him…why wouldn’t an officer put a bullet in you when you are clearly belligerent? Every possible thing you could do to get a bullet in you the kid apparently did. Unless there’s something in the packet that says different, the evidence corroborates the officer’s story.

Full transcript from the grand jury case - http://digg.com/2014/darren-wilson-testimony-transcript

  • page 195 has Darren Wilson’s testimony

These riots are really going to teach those innocent bystanders and shop owners that cops are crooked.

Remember the olden days when people would stand up to oppressive monarchies and burn down baker shops and blacksmiths.
That really hit the king hard!

I said you can just stare an officer the wrong way and he/she will immediately think you are a threat to his/her life. That would justify the use of deadly force. :wink:

All officer involved shootings are always at first classified as an assault on law enforcement:

http://i.imgur.com/yCfsOap.png

No it fucking wouldn’t. You can mean mug an officer all you want so long as you are complying and you aren’t threatening him. State things clearly, no sudden movements, if you’re gonna do something that looks remotely wacky make sure you state clearly what it is you are doing and why and don’t pretend cops have to follow the law.

I’m not a huge fan of cops. Wasn’t before my friend got his ass whooped for no damn reason and I’m not after that. But this kid fucked up in every conceivable way. He robbed a corner store then decided to do dumb shit with a cop. Unless there is some bit of evidence that was overlooked, then there isn’t much of a reason to act like some magical anime version of this happened where the officer was wrong. Either way we’d have to go over all the evidence presented to the grand jury and see what’s in there. I don’t know if there is, but that would be the place to look.

Justice Department likely to impose reforms on Ferguson police - http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-feds-20141125-story.html

Are you fucking serious. They are seriously rioting? What happened to the teachings of MLK? We are supposed to be about constant improvement, then this shit happens. Honestly don’t give a fuck about this situation anymore, between evidence showing that Brown was in the wrong, to they way anarchists reacted, wow.

If anything, this is proof that there needs to be an improvement in schooling, because this is the shit that uneducated people do.

They are protesting there is a difference. Most people are only focused on the minority that are looting and causing destruction.

More vigils, less riots.

The improvement schools need is classes on proper grown up things like talking to cops.

I’m sorry, but…where are the injuries?

Anytime I see people use the word “Kid” and “unarmed” when talking about a 6’ 4" 250 pound man, I know they’ve already made up their mind about what happened. Dude was not some little kid that got shot for being black, he was a big ass man shot for being aggressive with a police officer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkOfqIXkBRE

Yeah, police shouldn’t use deadly force in situations it doesn’t require, I agree. But this wasn’t about race, it was about a thug who thought he was tough and paid the price.

But it won’t matter, because theres no easy solution or answer and nobody has video of it going down. At least there is 900+ pages of testimony and evidence released to the public, including eye witnesses. But theres so much contradicting stuff in there, witnesses claiming to see stuff (like shooting him in the back) that doesn’t match up with autopsy reports, witnesses saying that Brown charged the officer (might just be saying what they were told to say, or maybe thats why the officer came up with the story he did). Its just a fucked up situation regardless.

But painting Brown as just some innocent kid is laughable, as I’ve seen in played up

edit: the weirdest thing for me is the jury taking 2 days. I just served on a murder trial in compton last month, and the trial took about 6 days. We deliberated for 3. For these jurors to listen for months then deliberate for 2 days is pretty crazy. They must have felt pretty certain about what they heard.

After listening and reading much, I have decided this should have gone to trial because of this:

There was no cross examination of Darren Wilson or other witnesses.

He said he felt like a 5 year old and compared Brown to Hulk Hogan and finally a demon. Wilson is a big man himself.

Words were exchanged between Brown and Wilson before Wilson left the vehicle, such as Brown calling Wilson a pansy, Wilson telling Brown to “get the fuck out of the street”, to which Brown responded “Fuck you”, amongst other insults. Why did Wilson not de-escalate the situation? (or was unable to)

It also seems clear that Brown did in fact hit Wilson. Why did it get that far?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/11/25/366519644/ferguson-docs-officer-darren-wilsons-testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiRj1zUN9Fw&list=UUeFlOi54kYIgbJHt_1ApDpg

Donald Trump has lost his mind:

This is what I have been talking about since the beginning (was the use of deadly force justified or not?):

One of my original posts in this thread: Protest followed by massive looting in STL

LOOOOL, he was running so fast he had a cloud of dust behind him.

That still seems wild to me, to go to such an extreme. Like damn, jack some cigarillos and strong arm the clerk, then talk shit to a cop and try to beat him up, then when he pulls a gun on you, you call him a pussy and try to take his gun, then after all this toughness and the gun goes off, you take off running, then turn around and start charging at him like a bull with one hand in a fist on your side, and another under your shirt in your waist.

That seems waaaay too convienent of a story to paint. But this is what you get, because dead men dont talk. The altercation, along with the robbery was already going to be enough for any jury to not give a fuck what happened afterwards. His boy dipped off, so he didnt catch much of anything after the first shot and they took off.

Also, some of yall need to calm down, like darren wilsons testimony is absolute fact of that entire altercation, and no one here has read that whole fucking transcript yet anyways to try to pick it apart. For the most part, no one here was denying the initial altercation happened, although we questioned why it got heated so fast. Was it instigated by darren, or did michael brown just walk up and start beating on a cop and try to steal his gun. Then after that, it was seeing if we can gain evidence of any wrong doing when he got shot, ie… did he have his hands up, or did he charge at darren wilson like a crazed maniac.

We all come from different backgrounds, but ive been around a lot of knuckleheads like him growing up, and some of them are my family members, and it is one hell of a leap of sanity to do some typical wannabe thug/tough guy shit, asshole shit, to beating a cop in his own car, trying to steal his gun, and then charging at him with a gun pointed at you as if you arent going to get shot.

I’m kinda disappointed that because one person told their side of the story, once again srk goes into ignorantly bliss mode, as if there is no way any lies could be told by this cop. NEVER EVER HAS A COP LIED. OF COURSE. Cops have told bigger lies then what some feel darren wilson is saying, forensics have been tampered with before, witnesses tampered with, and now all of a sudden we’re to expect a man to snitch on himself if he did some questionable shit, forensics was perfect, and a majority of the witnesses had nothing of value to say about the incident.

The verdict would have been not guilty if they went to trial anyways. No damning evidence really came out months ago when this was heated, and without video, audio, or someone who saw it from start to end, its just his word against a dead mans, and dead men dont talk.

Some of these replies in here remind me of the zimmerman thread, and then once he was found not guilty, he went bat shit insane on his girlfriend twice, and his step father. Had some other erratic acts that happened, the jury said they thought he was guilty, but everyone here was like, oh well, the evidence is the evidence, trayvon got shot because he didnt immediately bow down to a stranger with a gun that was stalking him around the neighborhood. haha

With all that said, thats why im just like, we need to move on in a different way now, because there was not going to be any guilty verdict on darren wilson anyways, even if it went to trial. Time to just absorb what we’ve learned from this, and press forward.

LOL. Trump now all of a sudden gives a fuck about black people, and how the prejudice and racist in this country may not vote for another black man in office due certain failures, or percieved failures. You have to be some kind of fool to think that the people who rallied behind obama, did so just because he was black. As if obama came in after an awesome president, stood up infront of america and said, just vote me in baby, and we did.

Donald trump actually turned me off from the stern show at times too. I’m like, how are you guys friends with this dude, as he is just a casual fucking racist and dickhead. George takei even wasting his time on this prick a couple years back just gave me the :confused: face. Like, either trump is putting up a huge front and they know it, or you guys are a bunch of pussies for being cool with this dude after all the shit hes done and said. Every week i wait for a headline that trump is dead. Fuck that guy for real.