Protest followed by massive looting in STL

Case is done. They will use this video of him stealing and being physically violent to the store attendee as all the evidence they need to back up the officers story, especially since there is no other evidence other then eyewitness. An unfortunate death stained by his previous shenanigans that day. I still believe the story more of the various witnesses who saw him get shot even after giving up, but this shit here will not help their case at all.

Link below is of the police report filed against brown and his friend. So far that is still not the reason the officer stopped them, so it is unrelated, but its about to get real now. I first heard this from that ignorant worldstarhiphop video a few days ago, but i didnt bother to mention it because he didnt appear to be an actual witness, but just someone from the block telling what he heard, and he was first to tattle on brown, saying he stole cigars. Sigh, niggas stay snitchin. Anyways, info below, along with the audio dispatch released by anonymous.

Image from surveillance of Brown allegedly stealing cigars, and assualting an employee in the store.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvFabeDIQAA2udz.jpg:large

Anonymous: Audio Tapes (St. Louis Dispatch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zta9FyoA7TU

Um, that wasn’t Michael Brown. The police have said that. The officer who shot Brown was called to that strong arm assault and believed Brown to be the perpetrator. This makes sense why he wanted to stop them.

Welp, now a legit issue is going to get overlooked cause he fucked up.

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1339/26/1339261910038.gif

Edit: Ok, he was just a suspect but not actually the guy.

Edit 2: Oh so he was the guy? I’mma wait till it is cleared up but dammit man

edited again. johnson admitted to stealing the cigarillos with brown

It does beg the question, why would you steal cigars like that, and casually walk off? Did you think that they would not call the cops on you. Thats some super tough guy shit right there. I look forward to hearing johnsons side of the story of that interaction.

Regardless, even if he did go for your gun (i still dont believe that. its just such a huge leap), failed, and ran after you shot once, then shot him again. Once he clearly was giving up, and obviously had no weapon, otherwise he wouldnt waste time reaching for yours, why would you shoot him multiple times after he is on his knees with his hands up. Thats still one of the biggest problems of this whole case, regardless of the robbery and assault that the cop didnt know of at the time, regardless of him running from you. You basically killed him so he wouldnt talk, but why even do that in broad daylight, when there is another witness there with him.

This is gonna explode on the internet now, and not for any good reason. It was clear that he wasnt talking to the boys for that situation, so other then attacking browns character to prove he likely assaulted the officer, this isnt like the evidence everyone was looking for. Again, you still executed him after he gave up. You got your shots off, you wounded him, he couldnt go any further, but the deed still wasnt done for you, and you executed him.

This evidence changes little for me besides not being able to paint him as an 18 year old kid on his way to college, who was a good dude. I hate thieves and bullies personally myself, but again, you cannot execute people after they have given up, if they even gave you reason to shoot them in the first place.

What a cluster fuck this case has become. Jesus christ. A possible injustice, now clouded by his previous wrong doings, and a society filled with people who think stealing cigars is an offense worth of death, even though everyone has stolen some shit before from a store. I stole mvc2 from a dept store when i was young, on day 1 that it came out. Just a straight up grab and run, and thats way more expensive then some cheap ass cigarillos. Never got caught, but in hindsight, that is not worthy of death. Arrest, sure. So i will wait to see all the closet prejudice and or racist people come out trying to use this as evidence worth of being executed in the street. Anytime a brown person commits a petty crime, people explode in an uproar of justice, meanwhile, dur, this is what young teens do. Its far from a brown minority exclusive, but i shouldnt have to point that out. Figured i would before someone post their first stupid thought on this new evidence. Read this first, and continue to think rationally.

Cigars? I thought he was supposedly on the run for stealing candy from a store?

This whole thing should still be focused on the officer and whether his use of deadly force was justifiable in his encounter with Brown.

:coffee:

I was about to say, because that looked like what a dead brown was wearing in the pics i saw.

Yeah, its like i’m almost done with this now, because this can only just go way left. The history of harrasment and discrimination will be dismissed by people now, as well look at this guy, you thought he was a good kid, maybe many of the rest were all asking for it in other ways. The fact that he still essentially executed Brown will be tossed to the side as, oh well, another violent criminal dead, who cares.

This seems all straight forward. It took a week to get this info out? lol. Everything except the officers name could have easily been released to the public by monday to calm the frustrations locally and nationally. It still doesnt negate the execution which is what is still keeping people fired up, but the totality of everything that happened definitely sheds a broader light on things.

Johnson, you gonna sit up there and tell a sad story after you guys robbed a store and walked off like some wannabe gangstas, then you ran like a bitch when the cops were shooting at your friend after you allegedly did nothing but walk in the street. You lying, bitch ass nigga.

Ugh, sometimes sticking up for the black struggle is so hard. GET IT TOGETHER! You didnt deserve to die like that brown. You should be in the hospital with a couple wounds you can survive, but cmon with the assault and robbery over some fucking cigarillos, and cmon to your friend with his general bitchassness. Its hard to even believe johnson now, considering you lied about not robbing a fucking store earlier.

-1 for me on this. **I thought no way this could go left like that. NOOOOO FUCKING WAY, AND THEN BOOM, THEY ROBBED A STORE AND ASSAULTED THE CLERK EARLIER THAT DAY, AND JOHNSON LIED TO MY FACE ABOUT IT. He lead us to believe those two young brothas were just walking, minding their own business, when in fact you had every reason to be stopped, you motherfucker. UGH, im so fucking mad at them right now for clouding this case up with their bullshit. **

Well, this is why I say let’s wait for all the evidence to come out. Hope the cop pulls through. I also hope a bill to de-militarize local police actually goes somewhere.

The endless amount of other evidence still speaks for itself, but its like now i feel the populaton will revert back to, “hmm, maybe blacks just bring this on themselves”, losing just that little bit of good footing that was being made because of one cluster fuck of a case. I could just be being paranoid, but i know the non black population loves to reset that black revolution meter everytime a case isnt as clean as they want it to be. “Nope nigras, see, even if this was still wrong, you shouldnt have done this. Meter reset”. LOL

I THOUGHT HOW COULD THEY BE IN THE WRONG. I mean, no one got arrested for anything, including johnson who was there during the theft and assault. No initial press release from the department said the two young men were suspects for that situation at the store, but that the officer just approached two young men in the street for seemingly no fucking reason, and got assaulted.

**Its like this entire case was used to setup a fucking riot. WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT RELEASE THIS INFO UNTIL NOW!!?? **

OK he stole the pack of cigarettes so this case is over and we should just turn off our brains.

Fuck that bullshit.

No, I want to know what was the reason why this cop felt the need to hunt down and kill a kid who was trying to surrender. That is the reason why I was so upset. The initial confrontation was one thing, but what really happened between him getting shot through the window of the squad car and the fact that he felt the need to execute this kid with no trial is what I want an independent explanation on. You might be able to trick the people who are biased towards the words of the police that there is no controversy, but I want an answer.

I agree, we will have to see how things develop, but just sayin, the fact that they were involved in that crime, and johnson has been ms chatty kathy all week now while never mentioning that incident, is going to give lawyers a hell of a lot of room to work with if it goes there. Hopefully what seems to be an execution after giving up is still a hard focus of the investigators, but johnsons initial story will be called into question now that he has ran around talking like a bitch, when oops, actually you were both suspects in a crime you commited, who were gonna be stopped regardless if you were in the street or not.

I’m not saying we should all stop caring, but it really zaps the energy now that its all mudded up with brown and johnsons bullshit, especially johnsons bullshit in singing like a bird all week.

Same as it ever was. Most likely everything the police officer said is true, and the 6’4 300 LB Michael Brown really did assault him and try to get his gun. At which point, Brown deserved what he got. But hey, at least the ever noble black community got to scream “racism!” and loot businesses who never had anything to do with it in the first place. Stay classy.

Unfortunately, these seem to be the people we need to convince that there is a problem and to get shit done, but with this asterisk there it doesn’t help. There seems to always be an asterisks with larger known cases such as these. Yea WE still care but now a lot of folks are going to brush this shit to the side and it’s not a good look when trying to get shit like this addressed now.

Maybe I’m looking at this negatively but shit ain’t change after Oscar Grant (even worse incident with no asterisk) and Treyvon and this shit seems like it’ll head in the same direction. Hope I’m absolutely wrong.

On a slightly lighter note:

;_; kind of funny but not really

Not caring because he stole some cigars is BS, this would be the equivalent of stealing a loaf of bread and having your hand cut off, but rather than have your arm cut off they just took you straight to the guillotine.

Russell Brand had a twitter discussion where viewers shared their points of view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfORmG9OUA

lol this is some skyrim shit. I walk into a shop steal a wooden bowl off the table and the guard is ready to push my shit in. I disengage conversation and they are swinging at my neck.

lol

probably because they were still investigating i would imagine

Unless I’m missing something, there isn’t any concrete evidence of what actually happened after the robbery, right (other than Brown was unarmed and killed)? There seems to be a clusterfuck of information and misinformation out there and it’s hard to discern truth from fiction. :confused:

a nd the real issues are going to dissapate as quickly and suddenly as that video came about. SAD

Eh, some of the things i mentioned above could have been released, but i guess whats the point since shit was already getting off the hook. I’m not saying that on some conspiracy shit or anything, just a rant of how it seemed some of that information could have easily been released on monday or tuesday to help calm much of the uproar locally and nationally. People jumped to conclusions because there was little reason to assume anything happened other then walking in the street. Not even the release early on from the PD said the officer question to young men suspect of a crime that he was called to, and then shit went awry. Both ends were like yeah, so i pulled up to some guys walking in the street, and, yeah, so he pulled up to us as we were walking in the street.

Yes the “execution” is still a major point, but knowing that they were suspects in that particular crime wouldnt have made it seem like a walking while black case, but a case that still needs investigation, but actually had solid roots for their actual initial encounter. They werent racially profiled as it seemed, but they were actually suspects, and now we know involved in an actual crime that the police were called for.

No, just the cops word vs a few witnesses, mainly johnson who was there for most of it, but we dont know how much he saw once he hid in a bush, where the bush was, or whatever. A couple other people i believe have come out in saying the saw the officer shoot him after he had already given up.