Sigh, thanks again for the definition Vicious, but I really learn alot better if you’d post more on your past experiences with perspective. LOL, I didn’t learn coloring from someone saying, “Color is red. LINK!”
I got some feedback on past exps. You get what I mean? Nothin fancy. :tup: Thanks though.
what exactly are you asking on perspective? it’s quite a wide topic.
I more or less understand 1-, 2- & 3-point perspective (never did touch 4-point or fisheye effect though, although I’m sure the same principles apply to some extent). I’ve found that the rules of perspective will guide you in telling you when things are just plain wrong, but they aren’t necessarily able to tell you what’s right all the time.
sometimes you just have to go as far as the rules can take you and then carry on the pic based on what you see in real life.
Haha… point taken. But ya know… you gotta be responsible for your own learning too! <grin> Some people have been spoon feeding Kandoken a little too much eh? Heh heh…
If you read what I wrote, I did say borrow the book from a library. I don’t know about you, but borrowing books from the library are free where I come from.
In my humble personal opinion, reading those books was my personal experience! So I can’t really tell that much more. Let me see if I can dig up more of my old sketches. Perspective really is quite technical, so don’t expect to learn much from them. Besides, the books have so much better illustrations and explanations than I could possibly hope to give.
Nevertheless, in your great search for betterment, riddle me this: How do you put 1, 2, and 3 point perspective in the same drawing, and what does it mean to do so? I can’t easily explain the answer, but if you’ve got it, you’ve pretty much got perspective down pat.
My experience of perspective is this: Any two (or more) parallel lines will vanish to a single point when placed in perspective. If the lines are parallel to the ground, they will vanish to a point on the horizon.
By the way, haven’t I been posting pictures? I thought that would help.
Landel - Forget what I said. I had no clue those sketches were yours. They look so militant. It was just the ‘expose yourself to other artists’ comment. I thought you were thinking I had down syndrome or something, LOL. Like as if I had no clue where to start and that I was gonna just FIND something outta the sky, LOL. Gotta learn how to give people a little more cred, for what it’s worth at least.
Rook - I dunno, I want to pick up OVERALL perspective, but I don’t want my stuff to turn out linear. I guess I’m more focused on what to prevent rather than what to do, which is strange…
I’ll post up some perspective stuff after this, the crits’ll get the blood flowin.
Something I did real quick on Painter Essentials > Chalk.
perspective’s main purpose is to legitimise the space you’ve created in your 2-D work. That way ppl won’t look at something in the pic and go, “hey… that’s not right!” Esp useful in composing tricky shots like worm’s eye view, etc.
that being said there’s nothing to do but to dig in and learn the damned thing. Horizon lines & vanishing points aren’t really hard to grasp since the concepts are pretty basic.
Once you understand 3-point perspective, go somewhere like a stairwell, plonk yourself down in a corner and try to reproduce what you see from where you are sitting. That’s your hands-on experience right there (and you’ll be cursing me out before long for suggesting it).
Sometime back, someone posted up a b/w sketch of stairs leading down to a subway… was it Chain, Hiten or someone else? I forget. It was pretty damn awesome and a good study at the same time.
cool power ranger pic 
Ahhh, I see! So that’s probably the reason my stuff would come out so plain and flat. Yeah, I’m gonna start taking perspective up full-time now. Thanks Rook.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/kandoken/__sidesketches.jpg
i have problem in drawing people in different age …
so do me a favor … i need this for learning …
( i tried drawing and analyse th faces of sol-badguy , orochimaru , daigo kazama and batsu ichimonji )
can you draw …
a child at the age of 7-9 years old
a teenager aging , 11 to 13
another quite matured teenager at the age 16 ! ( i’m chinese , i was like a 14 when i’m 16 , some of you we’re like 18 when you are 16 )
a matured teenager …aging about 17 to 19
a young person , aging 20+
an adult , 28 to 30s
middle aged person …
a person in his 60s ( like ocelot , solidus snake )
finally …golden age 70++ <— OPTIONAL …
i need to practice this …
Haha… down syndrome… Where did that come from? Hahaha…
I think your progress is amazing. Last sketch is nice too. Red Ranger especially. Although his neck’s a little long.
I would make Kando’s butt a little higher and her legs a little longer, but that’s personal preference.
Thedude.com:
It’s good that you’re learning from reference. But as they always say… learn your foundation. Foundation means, take your reference from life, rather than overly stylized/simplified anime or comics. It’ll help in the long run, when you want to make your work more detailed and stuff. Also, it’ll help you understand why they draw the way they do.
As much as I hate to “post a new link for every question asked”, this has all the reference you’ll need. And I don’t have time to draw them all out and post them up either.
http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?s=80&cat=14
http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?s=56&cat=14
The next few pages show you the progress from a baby to adulthood and beyond.
If you want the lean and gruff style… Yoji Shinkawa’s drawings are excellent. You just gave yourself the answer there. Just google it.
woah thx …
forgot to tell you how troublesome it is
i have to agree with you , yoji’s work is fantastic
Dude - I agree with Landel. Just start breaking your faces down into certain age groups. The younger the age, the more firm you want their features to be. So say if you pick a baby, you want their face to be somewhat round, or plump same with the body. But as they mature, you kinda want to alter certain features to your liking. Be it, more wrinkles for old people, or a big nose. You know, just stuff I guess. I’m not good at giving advice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/kandoken/chain_mark.jpg
Something I’m working on. Sajin’s lighting a campfire with his ninjitsu. :lame:
Hi res version here - http://www.deviantart.com/view/23512806/
So is that a work in progress, dude? It’s looking pretty good right now, but I’m expecting better. Just wanted to let you know, Steve.
Sorry we all can please you, Rob. Fooker. ROFL!
This was for the contest I missed. :lame:
Hey, Kandoken, I’m anxious to see your Charlie and Dan on the Chainwhore Challenge.
fukin dope:tup: 
Very cool Sagat/Ryu, man! Sucks that you missed the contest. I like the different skintones you have for Sagat and Ryu. I think maybe for Sagat’s wraps and Ryu’s gi, it might look better if they had a little color to them rather than being stark white.
I really like your Kando character, BTW. Attitude, clothes, hair - all great. Makes me want to try and draw her.
Ielehiah - Dood, I wanna join up again, but I’ve suddenly gotten pummeled with work to finish! I did a Charlie, but it’s low-tier to say the least. 
Dan, I might do a comedy thing though, thanks alot man!
Shatterstar - Thanks alot man!
Chain - Yeah, might phoneline got cut once I finished too, LOL! Yeah, I completely agree on the Gi and wraps, man. I hadta rush them a bit, I was pretty shocked I did this in a couple of days. If you look closely at Ryu’s hair, there’s an opacity layer I forgot to fill in, LOL, I really fowled that up! And for Kando, by all means, bro! You can draw’er I welcome it whole-heartedly, man! Scabrous and Vicious drew her, you can too, I’d love to see it. Thanks man!
This one I kinda finished just not. I say ‘kinda finished’ because i need to fix up the legs and hues.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/kandoken/GUNNER_.jpg
The Hi-res version is here -> http://www.deviantart.com/view/24556534/
how come your brushstrokes are all dotty like that? You should try building up the shape with smaller brushes or try a lower opacity and build up. It looks like you’re going over the same area too much. You don’t have enough midtones on the arms either. If you squint, you’ll see what I mean. Keep it basic! When you go no lineart like this, its important to have edges. The edges on the head is ok, but his body has some blurry edges.
here’s a paintover. Not perfect by any means, but y ou should see what I’m talking about. I just sample the colors from your picture.