Pokemon X and Y: Aftermath (GEN 6 Discussion, Tier Talk, Breeding, Meganite)

I haven’t played a Pokemon game since Gold back on the GBC days. So I’ve been out a long time.

Recently got a 3DS, as a friend of mine pestered me to get one over the Vita (though, with PSO2 hitting the Vita, I’ll probably get one of those anyway)I guess I’m scooping this up. Its been a while, I guess the Gen 1 and 2 Pokemon I know and love are nowhere to be found in these newer games? I am planning on getting Black 2, to get back in the groove and bitch(not here) at all the new Pokemon designs cause of THICK nostalgia goggles. lol.

As sir VS said before, the most frustrating things about the game is Gamefreak’s refusal to rehaul.

Doesn’t anyone think it’s fucking stupid that formerly good Pokemon have to be relegated to NU because of ONE MOVE or have base stats of 140+ on non-legendaries making a ton of predecessors strategically obsolete.

As for type balancing, they don’t even have to add a new type. Just make Water weak to Poison and Ice have 2 useful resists cough Dragon, Water cough and the hundreds of Pokemon will be useful and I’ll be much more inclined to play.

Look what giving Psychics and Darks a defined weakness to Bug did for Bug type, brought them out of the Dark Ages.

Now this wouldn’t completely balance the types, but it’d be a start. Grass, Rock, and Fire need to be revisited as well, but GF probably will never touch those “classics”.

Grass needs at least one more resist or one less weakness to be balanced. Flying weakness is the one redundancy imo.

Rock would probably benefit from being neutral to Ground, considering it’s supposed to be a “defensive type” with 5 weaknesses. This would help them greatly since Earthquake has been the #.1 check for them due to how common the move is. Now it would be more challenging to prepare for them and they can switch in more.

Fire, one of my favorite types also gets owned due to really common weaknesses. Eliminating the Rock weakness would really unburden them, especially with the lameness known as Stealth Rock still potentially looming.

My point is, just give me my Steel/ Ghost type Samurai Pokemon with Levitate trait and I’ll spend the dough Nintendo.

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Black/White 2 has a couple of wild Gen 2/GSC Pokemon right off the bat.

My nostalgia goggles are fairly thin. Almost all of Gen 5 Pokemon grew on me and were nice designs but some just were not recognizable as a Pokemon design (Vanilluxe). There’s so many Pokemon now that they are looking like each other or just looking like some neopet or Skylander. That’s not all GF’s fault it still shows that the creativity is growing thin. They’ll run out of good ideas just like how they ran out of colors lmao. It’s hard to judge where things SHOULD go after Gen 6, by it’ll be a long wait for me. Hopefully Gen 3 remake comes soon.

I don’t know, I liked the 6 month wait period. I looked at some walkthroughs and reviews of the guys who imported it. That way I know if it’s worth buying or if I should wait for the next version. And I compare this wait to the wait between Gen 3 and 4, which was 4 years. That’s how it should be. They should’ve released one more pair for Gen 5, at least to improve it. It just seems too sudden. Seriously, Gen 5 just seems like Nintendo gave us a huge present (looks good on the outside) and then you open it up and it’s filled with crap. They didn’t even try with Gen 5 and it just seems like filler for this. Really, Gen 5 should never have been released! I would’ve waited for this. It doesn’t need to be exactly 3 years to wait. I’d wait longer if it means a better game. Seriously, Gen 5 had the worst in game… game and region so far, even worse then Sinnoh.

Your sig was funny.

Rocks completely cripple Fire. But still, that’s a good point. It’s a big problem with Pokemon… The battling is the main component of Pokemon and so many Pokemon are rendered useless all because of type. All of this garbage with Rocks has pretty much ruined Pokemon battling, since there’s only a few Pokes that you can use because otherwise they are crippled by Rocks. Ice really needs to be looked at. It’s supposed to be an offensive type (has way too many weaknesses to be defensive), but Ice isn’t strong enough against enough Pokemon. Most people just teach water Pokes Ice Beam instead and Ice Pokes are left in NU and RU. Game Freak needs to delay this game and spend an extra year or so on this. The graphics suck so that’s not going to help it, and graphics aren’t the real reason people play Pokemon. It’s for fun battling. However, if the game isn’t balanced and Game Freak isn’t willing to overhaul Pokemon battling, there’s no reason we even need a Gen 6! They should fix the old problems, not add new ones and add another 150 Pokemon! They are all useless without balance!

EDIT: Rocks as in Stealth Rocks, not the type.

Around 650.

Really? It’s more expensive then the console versions and there’s no arcade stick support (of course). But it may be worth it if you want the characters.

Grass is the only good one. Yeah GF is milking it, and yeah, the death of Pokemon is now coming even faster. I’ll just play Gen 1 and 3 and forget this is even happening.

Flareon needs buffs BADLY.

I’d prefer C. Viper but that’s just me lol. But yeah Nintendo really rushed through Gen 5 and left me wanted more. It was a good gen for it starters and story. Again, loved the soundtrack. I skipped Sinnoh and have no regrets.

Sinnoh sucks. Good job. I have only played a little of Gen 5. I still say that the Kanto and Hoenn games were the best (pretty much all of Gen 3). WHEN’S MY REMAKE COMING!!!

They should let other people make Pokemon, since GF clearly has run out of ideas.

Yeah Gen 3 was my favorite in almost everything about it. It’s where I actually started playing Pokemon instead of just watching the anime. To be honest there are fan-made Pokemon with some neat designs, but I haven’t lost hope in GF unless Fennekin becomes a fighting type…

if you got time i would advise you to pick up some used pokemon games older than that and beating them, benifits of having older pokemons lengendaries and all that
if you feel like it , i got pokepals from all the way from emerald and fire red in my black 2

If we don’t get opposite types by now, Game Freak is doing it wrong.

They showed they can somehow fix problems by making TMs reusable (SO SIMPLE, WHY DID IT TAKE FOREVER)

There are so many little things that would make the game less aggravating. I wonder how many I can rattle off!

  1. Battle Preview is stupid, get rid of that shit

  2. Speaking of battles, make it so I can toggle all the settings on internet battles. 3 vs 3 only on the internet? That is really fucking stupid gamefreak. Just let me put 6 v 6 with all items allowed. You don’t need to ban anyone if you do #5

  3. Make it so I can request specific pokemon by gender and species on the Pokemon trading thing, so the network will just serve as a giant go fish server and match up people who need my male butterfrees for their female squirtles.

  4. Take all the randomness out of breeding, make it so I can change the natures, abilities, and have all Pokemon have the same IVs. Also have a pokemon fitness center where you can pay to put EVs on. Also decomplicate EVs by making them just 1 ev = 1 stat point

  5. Rebalance all fully evolved pokemon with equal total base stats. Something like 650. There, you can use Uber dudes who look cool/retarded

  6. Rebalance the types (as we’ve said a bunch of times, it isn’t that hard, some of the types simply make no sense), make every type relevant

  7. Make it so you can trade and receive pokemon with HMs if you’ve reached a certain part of the game

  8. Make HMs their own in game thing, take them away as moves entirely so you don’t need a damn HM slave.

  9. At the end of the game have an area with all the places you are going to need to breed/raise a team of competitive pokemon.

  10. Make it so I can be a black, asian, or latino person

  11. Heart Scales are donezo, just make the damn Move House free in the competitive battle park

  12. If a pokemon can learn a move, let it learn that damn move at the Move House. No more of that Wish event Chansey shit. Collecting the pokemon is the gimmick, not being flummoxed when you want a move on a pokemon and can’t ever get that without hacking.

  13. These changes will have reduced breeding to only something where you can get the baby versions of pokemon. GOOD. The game is about battling, not walking back and forth with eggs for 500 hours. Get rid of chain breeding moves. Make it so dittos can breed with every pokemon, and every pokemon has a 50/50 gender ratio. Now people can freely make all girl teams easily and have fun.

  14. Make it so you can buy every battle item without going on the shitty battle subway for 100 hours. Just have them cost in game money.

  15. Steal from Tekken/Virtua Fighter and have the Battle Whatever have ghost trainers from actual players and strategies, have them be DLC.

  16. Balance out the moves that make certain types completely useless. Tweak hazard and weather slightly. (IE add more hazard reducing options, fix stealth rock, and make the weather not last the whole battle, like 5 turns is good right, auto Rain Dance is still very useful)

That’s about all I can think of right now. These aren’t hard changes and would make the game so much better.

they ran out of ideas in gen 1

or should i ruin your childhood with more comparisons like the last page?

Im still waiting for an interactive pokemon game, where in every battle I control the pokemon in a manner like tales of symphonia. They can start by packiging Gen 3, and then expanding it to Johto and Kanto all in one game.

Exactly, and people talk about originality. Look at Gen 1.

I just want to be able to travel back. That just needs to happen. 16/24/32 badges. I dont care