Petition for arcade release of SSF4

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
1401

First of all let me just say that Marvel Vs Capcom 2 is a great game and the Americans players who brought Marvel to it’s astronomical level it is today is a fantastic accomplishment. Marvel is one of the greatest fighting games ever made and I’m glad that the Americans held it up even though the Japanese neglected it.

But, not to belittle Marvel players, because I’m one, I own a cabinet, but you could argue that Marvel is at it’s basic level the same game as Xmen Vs Street Fighter. Marvel Vs Capcom is the ONLY fighting game that Americans dominate in. Since the VS series was always a hit in America and not Japan, you could argue that the reason why Americans are great at Marvel is because they’ve been playing the same game since Xmen VS Street Fighter. The transitions between XVF to MVC2 and all the VS games in between isn’t a steep learning experience as oppose to say transitioning between Japanese dominated Capcom games like Super Turbo to Vampire Savior to the Alpha Series to the Three Series to now SF4.

Another factor is that a lot of American arcades have only VS series games because those games were hits so those were the fighting games that Americans have been playing in the arcade for the last fifteen or so years. So basically American players and the American arcade culture for the past fifteen years really only had room for one fighting game to play seriously and that was the vs series.

Japan arcade culture on the other hand has more variety when it comes to the number of competitive games and has a better opportunity for players to take different fighting games seriously. So that is the reason why I am totally in favor for an arcade release of SSF4. It’s not about the skill of the players but it’s mainly about the culture. Because of their number of arcades and their number of players, I think Japan has a better opportunity to crack SSF4. It’s not about them being better or smarter, they’ll just be the ones to do all the work for us when they give us those crazy combos/strategy with unique characters like Adon or Gen.

So SSF4 for Japanese arcade at least. We’ll just import it.

1402

I dont have any issue with an arcade release,not am i going to argue japan puts in alot of time to bring alot to the table.

I personally only even had an issue with this Japan>the world attitude alot of people seem to have.

If they have the best player tourney tested at this time my hat is off to him,as it stands now they do and i have nothing but respect for the skillls he has.

That being said we (american’s)have stayed in there with them at every turn,granted their culture is more conductive to exposure to a larger pool of varying players with a wide range of skills,but that cannot and will not last.

I really do not want SSFIV to be Lag fighter online 4 where only unproven scrubs willing to manipulate the enviroment rather then test their hard won skills.

I am personally all for an arcade release to keep everyone with a heavy arcade scene in the mix.

Hell i would like business’s like Dave and Busters to really embrace the scene and help prop it up for the betterment of all.
I miss the arcades of my youth and that they offered me a place to both go after school when home sucked and play a large variety of players with varying skillsets.

I just get annoyed with people insinuating that MvC2 was some kind of throw away game because america supported it and japan didn’t when if anything the reverse is the case as i believe the VS series remains Capcoms most fiscially successful series per game.

And we all know Smash is the real throw away series.

1403

Marvel is one of the greatest fighting games ever made. I saw it this way. Outside of SF Japan picked up the Vampire series and America picked up the Marvel series. Each country picked up the game that was more appropriate to their culture. No one is better than the other and I’m a fan of both. Both are great games.

1404

Haha no Let us Americans have the same amount of arcades compared to japan in major cities and i gurantee too no more weaboo dick riding.

1405

Americans just won’t go.

1406

What I’m really worried about, is that Capcom’s decision may affect other games as well. SSF IV will probably sell pretty good on consoles, and if the game succeedes without an Arcade release… Other companies may do it too

We already know ASW is releasing a GG game to consoles only [Even though we don’t know if it’s a fighting game or not, it may be affected from Capcom’s idea…]

1407

I think we can take solace in knowing that the team (and Ono himself) really want to do an arcade release. They’ve said as much directly in interviews and on the site… I don’t know why they’d lie to us if it wasn’t the case like that. They’d be better to keep their mouths shut and just let the hype die down, but instead they say “no no, we agree, and we really want to do one. The scene will be better for it… please continue to show your support”. Such a weird thing to say if they didn’t want to make a serious push for it internally. And we know gamers externally are pushing for it.

That, coupled with the Japanese cultural tendency to not burn any bridges and to always try to please people, makes me really think they’ll do one as soon as SSF4 proves it’s popular on consoles. They’ll burn a loooot of bridges in arcades and in the media (Arcadia magazine, etc) by not releasing the game to arcades, and I just don’t think Capcom in their traditionalist Japanese business practices will think that’s a good idea… especially after they convinced a ton of these arcades to buy expensive Viewlix cabinets, promising future Capcom titles will support it and make the purchase worthwhile.

1408

I wish the community was this perstistent about their own community…

Anyway…capcom will definantly release this game in the arcade…

It is an easy update, and with what almost 20 characters added has the possibilty to blow everything out of the water…during the summer months since their will be no major arcade release then…

Nothing about the “honorable japanese culture” (seriously whats wrong is with you guys?)…just a chance to make money will spur capcom to release an arcade version

1409

In a country where FPS dominates and floods the market and MW2 and Halo rule the console generation? I doubt there’d be much business for an arcade. Not even the Rhythm Game scene is huge anymore here and unless it has Metallica or some shit and a plastic guitar they wouldn’t play it anyway.

1410

Once there is an arcade release, no matter how limited, the players will take it from there. If there is only a Japanese version, it will find it’s way in America and around the world. Once it’s somewhere the players will take it from there. Whether it be in a laundry mat, 7-11, a burger joint, or (gasp), even an arcade, the players will take it from there.

But I’m still skeptical. I’m not against it but it doesn’t sound right if Capcom releases it before the console. They never done that before. It doesn’t make sense money wise when it comes to maximizing their profits. But as long as there is a arcade release before or after console it doesn’t matter. As long as there is one.

Hopefully Capcom is aware that if they don’t release one, China would be happy to release a bootleg coin-op version of the game.

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Petition for the Arcade Release of Super Street Fighter 4
Purpose of petition

As of now, there has been NO announcement by Capcom for the Arcade release of Super Street Fighter 4. This thread is a petition with the purpose of gathering e-signatures from those that support the Arcade release of the game.

Yoshinori Ono, the game?s producer, has insisted that while he fully supports an arcade release, the final decision rests with Capcom USA, who owns the Street Fighter franchise. We need to make our voices heard while there is still time instead of just passively waiting and praying.

The biggest fear is a huge rift between the console and arcade scene, one that began with the release of SFIV home version in February 2009 which added several new characters. This divide will only get bigger with the addition of Super?s new characters and revamped game system.??

I don?t live near an arcade, so why should I care?

An arcade release means a huge deal to high level players abroad. These foreign players use the arcade as their training ground to develop advanced tactics. Evidence of this is the relatively deeper development and intricacy of Arcade characters vis–vis their console counterparts. If the arcade characters feel ?stronger? and the console characters ?underwhelming,? it is primarily because there was more time and a bigger player base to develop strategies. If the new Super Characters were introduced to the arcade, there would be more players helping to bring out the character?s true potential. These new strategies and combos will eventually trickle through youtube and fighting game forums, and make its way down to all fans.

SF4 breathed new life into arcades and while its unfortunate that arcades have gone the way of the dodo bird in some areas, we cannot just let it die out. When players come to the arcade to play SF4, they may play different games while waiting, or buy food, beverages, and ID cards. All this revenue supports the arcades bottom line and keeps them alive during these difficult times. Playing “arcade mode” on home version does not equate to the feeling of being in an actual arcade and its important for all of us to do what we can to reverse the decline of the arcade.

Worldwide Support

This petition is in parallel with a similar movements worldwide. With the release of Super so near in April, many top players are wrought with anxiety that the game they love will not be available to them in the arcade. While many of these players own the console version, the arcade is generally preferred due to the superior setup and connection.

Singapore, Hong Kong, mainland China, and Korea also have a thriving arcade scene and will suffer greatly if the arcade version is not released. I am sure that the arcade players scattered across America share the same settlement.

This is the petition for Japanese players:
http://file.nsb.blog.shinobi.jp/787f34e9.pdf

This is the petition for Taiwan players:
http://www.twfighter.com/viewthread…extra=page%3D1

This is the petition for Hong Kong players:
http://hkfighter.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=5

This is the petition for Korean players:
please make one. >_< Laugh?

This is the petition for Singapore players:
http://www.round1.sg/ Please make one >_< yagami???

Possible reasons for an arcade non-release, and why its a bad idea
Looking at the Capcom?s 2009 financial report, ( http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/n.../e090508b.html ), it is evident that the console release of Street Fighter was a huge hit and exceeded arcade sales. This success may have convinced Capcom that console version is the way to go, but the brisk console version?s sales owe a lot to the hype that the arcade scene created. If Capcom wishes to replicate this success, it is in their best interest to unite the two communities. While it may not generate as much revenue as console sales, the arcade version should instead be seen as a marketing expense that generates hype for console sales.

Makers of Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Arcana Heart, Guilty Gear/Blaz Blue, have all been loyal to the arcade scene, creating updated and more balanced versions. We as Capcom fans wish to receive the same treatment for Super Street Fighter 4.

The collection of signatures will be sent to Capcom USA. We need to unite and make our voices heard!

List of players who support the arcade release of Super Street Fighter 4

eruditemode

mods please do not lock this and throw it into the “suggestions” thread. This is more than a suggestion, its a plea for life.

1412

Petition for the Arcade Release of Super Street Fighter 4
Purpose of petition

As of now, there has been NO announcement by Capcom for the Arcade release of Super Street Fighter 4. This thread is a petition with the purpose of gathering e-signatures from those that support the Arcade release of the game.

Yoshinori Ono, the games producer, has insisted that while he fully supports an arcade release, the final decision rests with Capcom USA, who owns the Street Fighter franchise. We need to make our voices heard while there is still time instead of just passively waiting and praying.

The biggest fear is a huge rift between the console and arcade scene, one that began with the release of SFIV home version in February 2009 which added several new characters. This divide will only get bigger with the addition of Supers new characters and revamped game system.??

I dont live near an arcade, so why should I care?

An arcade release means a huge deal to high level players abroad. These foreign players use the arcade as their training ground to develop advanced tactics. Evidence of this is the relatively deeper development and intricacy of Arcade characters vis–vis their console counterparts. If the arcade characters feel stronger and the console characters underwhelming, it is primarily because there was more time and a bigger player base to develop strategies. If the new Super Characters were introduced to the arcade, there would be more players helping to bring out the characters true potential. These new strategies and combos will eventually trickle through youtube and fighting game forums, and make its way down to all fans.

SF4 breathed new life into arcades and while its unfortunate that arcades have gone the way of the dodo bird in some areas, we cannot just let it die out. When players come to the arcade to play SF4, they may play different games while waiting, or buy food, beverages, and ID cards. All this revenue supports the arcades bottom line and keeps them alive during these difficult times. Playing “arcade mode” on home version does not equate to the feeling of being in an actual arcade and its important for all of us to do what we can to reverse the decline of the arcade.

Worldwide Support

This petition is in parallel with a similar movements worldwide. With the release of Super so near in April, many top players are wrought with anxiety that the game they love will not be available to them in the arcade. While many of these players own the console version, the arcade is generally preferred due to the superior setup and connection.

Singapore, Hong Kong, mainland China, and Korea also have a thriving arcade scene and will suffer greatly if the arcade version is not released. I am sure that the arcade players scattered across America share the same settlement.

This is the petition for Japanese players:
http://file.nsb.blog.shinobi.jp/787f34e9.pdf

This is the petition for Taiwan players:
http://www.twfighter.com/viewthread…extra=page%3D1

This is the petition for Hong Kong players:
http://hkfighter.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=5

This is the petition for Korean players:
please make one. >_< Laugh?

This is the petition for Singapore players:
http://www.round1.sg/ Please make one >_< yagami???

Possible reasons for an arcade non-release, and why its a bad idea
Looking at the Capcoms 2009 financial report, ( http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/n.../e090508b.html ), it is evident that the console release of Street Fighter was a huge hit and exceeded arcade sales. This success may have convinced Capcom that console version is the way to go, but the brisk console versions sales owe a lot to the hype that the arcade scene created. If Capcom wishes to replicate this success, it is in their best interest to unite the two communities. While it may not generate as much revenue as console sales, the arcade version should instead be seen as a marketing expense that generates hype for console sales.

Makers of Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Arcana Heart, Guilty Gear/Blaz Blue, have all been loyal to the arcade scene, creating updated and more balanced versions. We as Capcom fans wish to receive the same treatment for Super Street Fighter 4.

The collection of signatures will be sent to Capcom USA. We need to unite and make our voices heard!

List of players who support the arcade release of Super Street Fighter 4

eruditemode

mods please do not lock this and throw it into the “suggestions” thread. This is more than a suggestion, its a plea for life.

1413

So the console is coming out 4/27/10. Any word on an arcade release? I’m having my doubts. End of an era?

1414

I’m hopeful in the Timed Console exclusive and then into the arcades theory.

1415

So fucking true, I wish I could rep this. :rofl:

Whenever people make posts about how businesses should adhere to traditional Japanese honour, I immediately think of this.

1416

Whats the point of having arcade in america? Last time i checked… there is like 20 arcade machines in usa but then again you sad you can’t wank to your favorite japanese players… weaboos

1417

And I suppose wanking to your favourite American players is any different?

1418

Why did I read this thread as “Petition for Shin Akuma”?

1419

Lol, without a japanese arcade release, the average american player can’t steal japanese moves off of youtube ahahah. Thats why console characters like cammy, fei long, and gen are barely used.

1420

It’s more of an inspiration thing. If you see somebody excelling as your favorite character it pumps you up. If you see them lose a lot it is very damaging to your mindset.