Petition for arcade release of SSF4

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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The idea of a monthly/yearly membership subscription fee comes to mind. Either that or per-day free play passes. Wouldn’t be that much different than LAN centers.

Open your eyes. They’re already losing tons of money. Hundreds of game centers across Japan closed last year. Hardware costs are rising, and profits are dropping. The only reason game centers have lasted longer than American arcades is due to the fact that Japanese homes are usually not big enough or isolated enough to gather up a bunch of friends to play locally.

There is a Japanese game center culture (which is awesome, and i like it a lot), however the reason many game centers have closed, and will continue to close, is because of a lack of a solid and profitable business model.

Not necessarily. The reason Japan has so many good players is due to the fact that they all meet up and play each other often. Japan is only roughly the size of California, yet it has an extremely dense population. In the western world, people do a lot of things in their homes. If you look on the SRK regional boards, its not uncommon to see gatherings or small tournaments being run out of people’s houses. In japan, for a few reasons, people spend a lot of time outside of their homes. That’s not going to change, the social structure just isn’t built that way…

I would argue that as long as people in large metropolitan areas (like Tokyo, Osaka, New York, LA, etc.) can get together in a public place and play for hours at a time, the skill level will always be high. Let’s face it, the majority of excellent fighting game players are from densely populated urban areas. Japan has many densely populated urban areas within a relatively (compared to the US) small area. Imagine if the New York and SoCal scene were only a 2 hour train ride away from each other…

Somewhat true. I doubt they would even need to sell any new hardware, it seems like arcade owners could potentially upgrade.

However, Capcom it may not be as cheap as it seems. No matter what a company does they have to pay their staff. Even thing’s like simple ports from one platform to another require man hours, from code work to testing and debugging. It certainly wouldn’t break the bank, but it wouldn’t be free. The biggest factor to whether or not they go through with an arcade version is if they think arcade owners will buy it. I’m sure they are mentally weighing that point as well…

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With all that being stated, I hope that Capcom does an arcade version, at least in a limited release. However, game centers are not the business that they were 10 years ago, and i think it’s only a matter of time before something ‘new’ comes around in japan. I’d be willing to guess within the next 5-10 years game centers will exist but in a much different way… (/ms. cleo hat)

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Finally someone with some progressive thought…

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I don’t see how it would be that much more money for an upgrade. The game is coded for the Xbox and the Taito Type X2 board is a pc with a tweaked version of XP. The only thing they would have to do is send the operators another HDD with dongle for the game to work.

Plus if I’m not mistaken the Arcade operator’s in Japan rarely own the hardware. I think it’s leased so that it’s not much cost to the operator. That’s why you see a ton of cabs with SFIV in it.

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Isn’t it obvious that O.Red is trying to get a full red bar by trolling? !!

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They have some shitty arcade wannabes south of Seattle where you pay $5 an hour to play an Xbox console on a big screen. You go up to the register, say, here is $25, I want to play SFIV, and you get that 60’’ TV and SFIV to yourself for 5 hours. Now, say if you wanted it like a normal arcade, the usual line of gathering SFIV nerds, each and everyone one of them would need to pay $5 for an hour. I guess it would work but I personally hate those two places near me. Thank god they are going to go out of buisness very soon. :cybot:

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^why would you hate on something that s the closest thing to reviving the arcade scene as your gonna get.

We have one of those setup in the our mall and im thinking i might try and start supporting it since everyone has there own stick and its in the mall.

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I don’t mind the SSFIV being in arcades and all but it needs to be english, not imported and i want an option to play ps3 controller like tekken. Arcade scene is dying in america

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You do realize that $5/Hour is a much better value than 100-yen per loss, unless of course you don’t ever lose within that hour, then its only slightly worse. Not to mention many SF4 machines (at least before it was released on console were more than $1 per play/loss. IIRC, the one i played at was $1.25 per play, and i recall getting my ass handed to me by lucky locals who didn’t have to drive 3 hours to get there. lol…

I don’t think that idea is quite there yet, but i think it has some merit and would certainly be worth looking into, especially in japan.

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Yes

I wish arcades were bigger in america so I could play other people. I live in Oohtah, and in addition to having no real arcades, nobody seems to play SF4 that I know. Now I could just play online, but where’s the fun in losing due to input delay or having people rage quit when your damaging their precious BP. I think I would enjoy rage quitters in real life… watching them yell and throw their controllers before finally storming away. Arcades are somewhere to play against complete strangers where eventually you’ll find someone good enough to mop the floor with you. If they stop making arcade machines, than nobody will ever open up arcades.

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if they do make an arcade version, they need to be able to make it updatable via OTA or something. This way if any balancing that happens to the console version can make its way to the arcade version. Wasn’t this the main reason why they didn’t to any balancing tweaks to non arcade characters in SFIV? To keep the 2 versions gameplay identical?

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**So is that what trolling is?

That’s stupid.

I say what I feel about a subject and some of you are sooooooooo sensitive about it (and me typing in bold) that you get butthurt over it.

Some of you just want to bitch and cry on each others shoulders about SSF4 because its not gonna get an arcade port, but when someone proposes an idea (good or bad) you want to jump down their throats.

Some of you want to blame Ono, when you should be grateful that he cared enough to get SF4 made in the first place.

And some of you just want to see what the Japanese do first so you can try to copy it and end up losing to them anyway…

I like the arcade scene to but I also understand business, and right now an arcade SSF4 is bad business, especially when SSF4 is gonna sell considerably less than SF4 did and you know it.

You really expect Capcom to gamble on niche market?**

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Well the fact that you always feel the need to use bold font strongly implies that you want anyone browsing the page to notice your post first. You’re looking for attention. Now that could be because you’re a very unskilled and indiscreet troll, or you just crave any form of attention in general. Either way, I’m sure I’m not the only one who wishes you would just go away. Your attention seeking is annoying regardless of your motives for it, and nearly every post you make seems to be purposely contrary to the general consensus, often defying logic. Kinda makes it obvious you’re trolling. Go back to 4chan.

Also, signed.

If there is no arcade release for SSF4, it will die in Japan, and that’s all kinds of bad for the community.

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**Did you even read what I typed?

Everything I wrote is true.

Excuse me for not being predisposed to bitch tears when something doesn’t go my way.

And you’re wrong, because I agree with everything Kajiki posts.

But go ahead and sign the worthless ass petition :rofl:**

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sorry if this has been posted 1 million times, but capcom said that all they need to do to update the sf4 machines to super is to install some software on the existing cabs, cheap as fuck.

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Hmmmmm…

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:rofl: nice catch there…No wonder the scene is dying…

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this sounds like very good news. seriously i dont think the ssf4 release will be as exciting unless its a universal update not just an update for console gamers. still getting it either way though.

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yeah, to be honest, if its really as simple as the article makes it sound, then i imagine the cabs WILL get the update, maybe just not right away.

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Remember how long US had to wait for SF4? Japan had all the loc-tests and the arcade release. It looks like Capcom has realized that the money is in the US market so they will make Japan wait this time.

Still, if doing an arcade release is so easy, it would be a real slap in the face for arcade players if there is no arcade version.

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they may release for console first, fix some bugs that could pop up and any gross balance issues in the first few months, then update the arcades with all the new updates. they’d never admit though because it’d just look bad.

But if that were the case itd be pretty smart of them.