but i want a cookie with my cake.
I think this is me and many people’s argument that support an arcade version of SSFIV.
According to this they aren’t ruling it out anyway.
You also take things too personal.
Selfish and vituperative.
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Anyway I dot think any of those guys you listed have cared about the rest of the world on console getting delayed delayed delayed realeases.
Sure I sent in the petition for arcade, its just not as important to me and the majority like your making it out to be in the doctorate you are writing in this thread.
You mean the closest arcade with SF4 cabinets which is 1.5 hours away if you count those in Orange County, although according to EventHubs.com there’s an arcade in Oceanside with a HDTV and console setup. Of course, to compensate for the lack of SF4 cabs folks in San Diego have put together the Box Arena.
- i make post showing how you’re dumb.
i take things too personal? or you specifically named me in your post?
seriously dude, you could win awards for stupidity.
which one is 1.5 hours away? have you factored in traffic?
shit, you gotta drive around AI for 30 minutes just to park.
never heard about the ocean side one. sounds interesting.
and yeah box arena is awesome… i’m a regular there.
do you come out? sorry if i’ve never met you.
I used “vituperative”…
I was trolling…looks like I need to level up.
yes please.
It was kind of short sighted of me to chose a console character as my main and now I feel locked out of arcades. If SSF4 comes out in arcades, I wont have that limitation on local competition anymore.
I’m hoping my post is the one that puts it over the top…
Hmm intresting… pretty certain that means there will be an arcade release.
There’s one in Santa Ana called Cameron’s Place Video Games for 50 cents a play, but I’ve never been there so I wouldn’t know what the parking situation is like. I often go up to Santa Ana to visit relatives so I’d have to check it out some time.
And no, I don’t think we’ve ever met since I’ve never been to the box arena. I’ve only been playing for the past couple of months for the first time on a stick, so I’m still in training mode practicing my execution. I do enjoy watching players compete at the highest level in tournaments, something that I’m sure will die down considerably but not entirely without a SSF4 arcade release.
The box arena has been used as an example of how people in a city without a decent SF4 arcade scene can put together a highly competitive console scene, but considering the large size and population of San Diego plus the competition they get from LA and OC players in tournaments, I don’t see it as something that can be easily be replicated in many other cities.
I don’t know if anyone has already pointed this out, but according to that blog (with the help of google translator), they’ve apparently maxed out the hardware of the PS3 and X360 with SSF2. Are they saying the Taito X2 can’t handle SSF4?
oh i’ve never heard of that place. i usually go to AI and Denjin since that’s where the LA comp usually is.
strange that sf4 is still 50 cents but i suppose they are not a well known arcade so maybe the are still trying to make up for their expensive purchase.
anyway you should come out to box arena or ttf when you get a chance, it’s fun to play people in person and everyone is pretty nice.
unfortunately as cool as box arena is, it still doesn’t replace an arcade as it’s only on wed and most of the time we have a tournament. would be nice to have a place you can just go to whenever you want and play random people.
I hope that the Street fighter IV arcade would appear in Canada’s playdium.
I think Capcom was fronting. They know this is all just building anticipation and probably would do an arcade port regardless.
No, but you were attempting to poison the well, by painting the opposition to your side of the argument as biased. That’s a fallacy, and I was just pointing that out to nullify your erroneous reasoning, DUR DUR.
Maybe I’m the only person who regularly watches Japanese arcade streams and recorded matches so I can absorb as much detail about the game and its characters as I possibly can.
With no arcade release, the availability of information just goes way, way down. To those people who say an arcade release won’t affect you because there’s no arcade near you, what about this?
Sure, some streams will still exist in the American market, but the information and tricks you learn in Japanese videos can’t be matched. They’re doing stuff the American players simply aren’t. Not to mention, American players are much more quick to give up on a character than the Japanese are (counterpicks and all that). The Japanese are beasting with Gief when America thought he sucked (Sabin can confirm). How much of the console character potential is locked because most Americans (not all, but most) have given up on a lot of them?
watching a japanese stream and learning from it?
how dare you scrub.
man up and learn everything without ever looking at another player.
america fuck yeah!
:u: (not directed at you deci, but to those that have the above mentality.)
For anyone that missed what I said regarding this issue:
lol i know what you mean shin.
the saddest part is that usually after someone makes a post like that, there are usually like 5 people that immediately jump in to quote the person and praise him like he’s the new black baby jesus.
and often these people have no problem learning from or even straight x-copying from an american pro. as if that is somehow any different.
… America, fuck yeah! :rock::rock::rock:
another interview with ono came out recently, and it touches on the arcade release.
at the beginning of the subject he flat out says once again there will be no arcade release, acknowledges the complaints being levelled and the outrage of the japan community, but then starts to backtrack? machine translations are always going to be a little jank, so i can’t really tell, but he talks about being sad about not being able to have the game in tougeki, says something about the shiozawa cup, and then says he wants to do his homework and get back to them on an arcade version.
i think, from that internal memo, that there’s a difference of opinion between capcom and the devs of sfiv. the thing is, the console version will bank a lot for capcom, because so much of the game is already there. they are basically adding about 15% new content, and the really small dev window (i’m pretty convinced that they haven’t been working on this game for more than 10 months) means the labor costs are also probably low for this game. even at the lower price point, it looks like capcom is set to make a really steep amount of money when compared to development costs.
but what about the arcade version?
it seems capcom (the company) is not looking for anything to jeopardize their profits. i think they see the arcade release as a variable, even though a 3k-5k upgrade board doesn’t seem so ridiculous when you think about the price of upgrades on the general. I think their decision to milk arcade owners having to buy multiple kits for multiplay really hurt their sales, and because they didn’t sell sf4 in the arcades as much as they wanted (for reasons that may very well be their own fault) they are apprehensive about spending any money on something that might not return as much as they want it to.
but then, you see all these devs and their blogs, and they’re fighting, and encouraging us to do the same. if the issue was so cut and dry and set in stone, why would there be all this confliction and doubletalk?
i worked at an arcade for 5 years, and i watched it shrivel and die. it takes dedication to fans to run one, because you’re in the wrong buisness if you’re seriously trying to bank on one these days. the console release is going to make a lot of money for capcom, even if the sales aren’t as good as sfiv,. regardless of whether there’s an arcade ver. or not. the casuals (i.e. a pretty fat majority of sfiv’s console sales) don’t know or give a shit about japan or their scene. or any of us for that matter. people in america will buy it, people in europe will buy it, people in japan will buy it. but as for the dedication and the high level play, i think that’s whats most in jeopardy here. i think for high level play, this arcade release is important, but as to the overall monetary (and continued) success of the street fighter series, not so much. that matter is a whole lot more cut and dry, wherever the most money is made, thats where you go.
i’ve signed before and i’ll sign again. it will be interesting to see how this all turns out. definately a watershed moment for street fighter.