Petition for arcade release of SSF4

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
921

capcom is much bigger than street fighter. they don’t need the street fighter franchise to survive. it’s very easy for them to just stop making street fighter games no matter how successful the game is if they view it to be a risky financial endeavor.

an easier way to put this is:
a title that is popular in Asia, America, and Europe will have a much higher chance of development than a title that is only popular in America and Europe.

if the scene for this game dies in Japan, there is almost no chance capcom will take the risk of developing another legit street fighter game (ssf4t, sf5, etc.)
bet it.

(well i guess there would be a chance, like you said… they outsource it to random US developer to do it)

i don’t think you understand current arcade hardware. nobody needs to make a new board.
sf4 runs on the taito x2. the taito x2 is a platform (it’s actually exactly like the computer you have at home, it runs windows and uses pc hardware)
other games like blazblue also use the taito x2.
the game itself just comes on a hard drive (just like your pc hard drive)
you just swap hard drives to swap games.

so arcade hardware isn’t really what you think it is. it’s basically just another console, it’s just a console that’s only marketed to arcades.

some people in this thread really are saying “fuck arcade”. they’re saying it’s dead, let it go, move on, we don’t need it, who cares if anyone outside of the US can’t play the game, who cares if the japanese scene dies we’re in the US, etc.

nobody is saying “fuck console” at all. console is absolutely vital to the success of games these days.
i don’t know a single US top player who doesn’t play on console even if they are part of an arcade scene (well except for the 3s guys but that’s cause console isn’t arcade perfect).
people who are pro arcades are not anti console at all. everyone loves console (for training mode practice, get togethers, online play, whatever…) the only complaint is if a game is not the same on arcade and console.
i don’t know where you got that notion from that people look down on console but it’s pretty untrue.
it would absolutely suck if a big game these days was arcade only.

and in case you missed it before, the pro arcade people aren’t really even arguing for arcades in most of the posts. we just happen to understand that an arcade release is important to the fighting game scene in general, to the Asian scene which pretty much only plays on arcades, and for the further development of the street fighter franchise.

922

This post makes me lol so fucking hard.:rofl:

923

This thread was hella soft from jump street. Sandy vaginas are no fun.

924

I personally live in Belgium where there isn’t even ONE arcade with SFIV, so people may think that I couldn’t care less. Well, I actually do. Even if I can’t play on arcade, the fact that there are arcade where people can meet, have fun, in such a good way is great. I’m a pure pc gamer, but I’m supporting the fun that playing “together” provides, plus you get to live the hype live and see people getting frustrated over your gameplay :wgrin:

I juste hope they won’t forget us PC players, SFIV is my very first versus fighting game I bought for myself (if you don’t count killer instinct) and I even bought a TE stick to make it more enjoyable.

925

That’s great news. I’ve never played SF4 in an arcade, but a SF release without an arcade release (HD aside) just wouldn’t feel right.

926

Then you better…

927

damn son u speak truth. and sandy’s an understatement.

Ill fight for an arcade release as much as the next guy because it will overall make the sf4 competitive scene much stronger and keep more japanese players interested so we have international flavor. but half the posts supposedly “petitioning” for arcades cabs are downright retarded.

Example A

928

I posted a story on my destructoid blog (username "Booerns) about that info Askia found on the SFIV blog. Anyone who gets any more info on the status of the tentative arcade release, please message me.

929

capcom, you are truly a great company. xD lol

930

Until online play completely or almost completely removed all traces of lag input, you’ll still have the arcade vs console mentality.

Most of the competitive players would rather play in a good arcade vs a good console setting most simply because they don’t want to deal with laggy frames while training/leveling up.

Once lag input has been addressed, then yes, I can definitely agree that the arcade scene for fighting games that have online will pretty much die out.

931

Believe me, I intend to. :slight_smile: Just need to find the time to trek to CTF…

932

That sounds good if they do plan to release it in arcades. :lovin:

933

Capcom Japan is certainly more than happy to make titles purely for the western market. Dead Rising and Lost planet were clearly intended for western audiences, considering they were 360 exclusives and the console was basically doa in Japan. If the sf series continues to sell well in the west, Capcom will continue to make it.

The fact that they’ve considered not releasing an arcade version says something about how sf4 performed in the arcades.

Again, to those crying about how without the Japanese arcade scene we won’t see innovation or high level play, did we need them to hold our hands for mvc2?

934

fuck year! I can’t wait for ctf to get it. I knew capcom wouldn’t hold out on us lol

935

ugh I can already imagine the lines. Gonna sneak in some early afternoon games there tomorrow before the big boys come and make me hurt :sweat:

936

Who’s saying that though?

This ain’t about that. The only people trying to make this argument about that are people want or don’t care if the arcade scene is cut. That or they are really, really hung up on my first sentence in this thread “who here hasn’t watched a Japanese tournament”.

I wish people would read my actual points instead of just getting hung up on one sentence.

937

Wait, there were actually people stupid enough to wonder if there was going to be an arcade version? The console port proved they didn’t really get the whole “no arcades” thing outside of Japan, mostly because everyone over there just plays in arcades anyway… OH MY GOD THE CHANCES OF ARCADES NOT GETTING SSF4 ARE SO HIGH.

938

Guessing was saying that without Japanese arcades, there would be no way to watch high level play and that being the best in the states wouldn’t mean anything if we don’t have the Japanese to compare ourselves to, etc.

939

Oh, well he’s an idiot.

I was reading through stuff again, and I just wanted to clear something else up. X-Copy. It ain’t about X-Copy. It’s about X-Paste. I ain’t Alex Valle. I ain’t Justin Wong. I ain’t a super genius, and I don’t have a big scene where I can regularly level up. And there’s a ton of guys just like me, small local scenes. That’s why we got character forums. We share all the strats, information, everything we can get our hands on, we watch and share videos of high level players, we X-Copy and X-Paste on each other all the time.

First thing I did when I went to my scene this year was tell the fellow Rufus player there everything I knew, and he passed stuff on to me. That’s what the scene is all about. There are no secrets here. That’s how you level up. Who gives a fuck who came up with what first? It ain’t about that. That’s pride fucking with you.

The pros contribute that down to us. That’s what I’m talking about with global contribution. We watch each other, talk to each other, share information through the forum. That’s how we get better as a whole. Everything should be out in the open. There is no shame in that, actually, the shame would be trying to keep that secret. The shame is not helping out your friend who you keep beating consistently, telling him what he’s doing wrong and how he can improve.

If I am having trouble with a matchup, for example, first thing I’ll try to do is go to my character forum. I ask around I go, who else is having trouble? Dude tells me what to do. He says try this and this. He shows me a video of what he’s talking about. Ok, thanks for the help man! Oh, noes, wait… did I just Xcopy??? OMG SHAME THE SHAME. Fucking stupid. It’s called sharing knowledge and helping us get better. Dude shows me a video I don’t care if the dudes I’m watching are American, Japanese, or Tennessessse. Good information is good information. I just want to learn.

So the next time someone accuses you of X-Copy, you say yeah and I X-Paste too.

940

Agreed.

Who cares who discovers what.

It’s not like US players are gonna win the Nobel Prize for discovering some new shit and have the technique named after them.

The fact that some people actually care about that shit is quite sad.