i’ll sign
Arcade SSF4 = Balanced everyone (including vanilla SF4).
Arcade SSF4 = former console characters become arcade characters = no more “console only characters” = everyone stops bitching.
lol at people who don’t understand why this game being in arcades is important.
basically, a fighting game that doesn’t get an arcade release is a like a movie that doesn’t get released in theaters. we’re talking straight to dvd shit.
and i know lots of people (read new people) aren’t going to understand why this is true.
while there are several reasons for it… most of which i don’t feel like taking the time to explain (but basically anyone who’s been in the fighting game community for awhile already knows), here’s the most basic one:
capcom is a japanese company.
good fighting games on the whole are developed in japan.
the japanese fighting game market is primarily based in arcades.
top fighting game players in japan play in arcades (lots don’t even own the console version of their main games).
japanese tournaments all happen in arcades.
the arcade version of a game is the only legit version of the game in japan.
so when a fighting game is released in japan without an arcade version. what do you think happens to the community for that fighting game?
now lets go back to the part where capcom is a japanese company.
make no mistakes about it. a fighting game that is not successful or that does not have a scene in japan will die as far as development is concerned. (it’s possible that they make enough money on foreign sales to continue… but this is risky)
so basically… arcade release is extremely important to the success of a fighting game in japan. success of the game in japan is extremely important to the success of that game in general. the success of a game in general is important to whether or not that game continues to be developed… you see where i’m going with this right?
people love to throw around the japan dick rider comments in srk these days, but you guys do understand the importance of japan when fighting games are concerned right?
i mean you do realize you’re playing a japanese game right?
Yes an arcade version before the console release would be best.
More testing from top players who don’t play the console version, more techniques discovered, better balancing, more Japanese tournament exposure, longevity for the game itself.
If this is straight to console, it just won’t be played that much in Japan, and there will be far less shit to Xcopy. No disrespect to people elsewhere that find shit, but they do it better.
Also it means we can import arcade setups and use this for our comps as well.
At least this petition will be actually worth participating in.
Personally I think SSFIV getting an arcade release is only important in the sense that it will help to keep the tourney scene strong and make it easier for bigger things to happen internationally with competitive SF if players across the world are on the same page. ** Just like Mortal Kombat and Soul Calibur…SF will have no problem at this point surviving just on console sales.** As long as they can find ways to market to casual and non tourney players SFIV simply as a money making hype driven game will succeed for a long time.
For the tourney scene…an arcade release in Japan is imperative so that we can test ourselves against some of the greatest minds of the fighting game scene. The game also evolves faster when we see things the Japanese put together within months (through continuous day to day play) that would have taken us a year or more to figure out ourselves. SSFIV being console only doesn’t do much to hurt the future of SFIV as a video game but as competitive sport it definitely drives a stake in its heart.
I don’t see why Capcom would not release an arcade update for the game. If SFIV was never released in the arcade beforehand, it wouldn’t have been successful as it was. Blows my mind wondering why Capcom would own themselves by not releasing arcade for SSFIV.
i agree with the OP, I would like to see this in arcades.
Couldnt have said it better. This is the reason why arcade release is so important.
Signed. If it weren’t for SF4 arcade, I never would have played the game.
I had so many good times playing this on arcade in Japan… Console just doesn’t compare.
I’d like to go back one day and I PRAY that the good times can continue.
But why? Why is the market primarily based in arcades when they could be wasting less money elsewhere? Why don’t they buy the console version so they can practice while at home? Why don’t they ever do console tournaments? Why do they ignore console releases even if they change the game for the better?
I understand that thats how it works in Japan. I don’t understand why.
I’m blown away by this decision.
Are we 100% sure this is the case?
Consider this a signature. No arcade release, no caring about SSFIV.
I agree with OP as well. Arcade is essential!!!
Without arcades, Soul Calibur 2 Cassandra’s wagon would still be broken.
Perhaps Ono got Capcom to compromise with a lower-budget disc-only release of the game initially, since they were hesitant to greenlight a SFIV sequel at all. If it is successful enough, we might then see the release of an arcade upgrade. Boycotting might be a bad idea, even if well-intentioned. They should definitely know that we expect a proper arcade release of Super, though.
What you’re saying makes no sense. If a game made by a Japanese company doesn’t do well in Japan then it has no hope? Metal Gear Solid disagrees with you. The US console scene is way, way, way bigger than the Japanese arcade scene. A fighting game doesn’t HAVE to be successful in Japan to be successful here, Marvel is the shining example of that.
Yes, it’s most likely true that the game won’t be as ‘discovered’ without an arcade release, but…we won’t know the difference. Arcade or not it WILL succeed in America, and it will be played everywhere (provided there’s not something horribly wrong with the game)
I would absolutely love for it to have an arcade release, and I think in the end it still could…but if it doesn’t, as long as the game doesn’t suck it’ll still get tournament play over here.
2 simple questions: Why not build a cabinet/use a cabinet around a console for those so desperate?
And What would you guys think if all the money Capcom would have spent for cabinet expenses, instead used that money to make online play flawless? Would there be any argument or desire to play in arcade instead?
I understand the argument for environment etc, but in the end, it doesn’t matter that much when it comes to just playing the game competitively.
Edit: just wanted to add this doesn’t necessarily mean I’m unsupportive of the arcade scene getting cabinets. I feel it should be easy enough to at least get the SSF4 boards and swap em with the SF4 ones.
The arcade scene is dead. Releasing SF4 in the arcade screwed everyone and was not worth it.
Keep it uniform. Keep it on console.
Japan is one of the only scenes in the world where playing at the arcades is still the primary way to go play a game. It’s a culture and the Japanese clearly accept playing video games on the regular when you walk out the door at some arcade as a pasttime and not just something the bad kids on the street or computer nerds do after school.
Actually Japan does do console tournaments (part of the God’s Garden tournament was run on console) but they are just few and far inbetween since there’s a much more social and competitive aspect to playing consistently anytime you want at an arcade.
It’s like what would happen if everyone in America just all of a sudden decided going to Starbucks was a dumb idea and made coffee at home and just talked to people on aim or on the cell phone while sippin their coffee/tea. That’s how America treats the video game scene since arcades were never advertised or maintained as well as they are in Japan.
Think of how much better everyone in America would be if in every county of every state (considering money is no issue here) if we all hard arcades to go to and people in every county went to these arcades regularly to practice and level up. The level of play and consistency of players would increase tremendously. We’d have many more Iyo’s, Daigo’s and J.Wong’s of the scene and that’s what arcades do for Japan. Instead of just having a Daigo or a Justin Wong they have MANY Daigos and J.Wongs. Then still have many more players at a play level just slightly under those players.
So there going to be an arcade locke test but no official arcade release? Something seems fishy.
bah, there’s no way arcade will only stuck with old SFIV arcade… (only 16 characters)
I want to see top japanese player use all (and console SFIV characters) at arcade, then make those characters into high level play.
I think capcom is smart enough and if they take not to release the arcade, they know they will make fans mad also. :mad:
make it like tekken arcade, every version of arcade has card (ranking system & customization, not only japanese arcade, but international version as well). PC version of SFIV can mod such custom costume, then if capcom smart enough they will support more alternate custom just like tekken. 