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Seriously though I’d take that interview with a pinch of salt.
(Looks at location)
You’re in China?
How does one go about pirating an arcade cabinet game, anyway?
(Yes, this is a swipe at Chinese trade violations - not asking for illegal crap.)
Damn, people act like mvc2 hasn’t had an insane, hype scene here for years with practically zero Japanese playing it. They chose not to play it, like they may choose not to play ssf4 if it’s console-only. Oh well, if we let that weaken our scene then we’re pretty damned stupid.
the sad truth is generally speaking, people are selfish.
they only care about what’s right in front of them or what they think directly affects them.
the reason i never bother talking about other asian countries in any of my posts is because most people in the forum just don’t give a fuck. they are unable to see that everyone is all connected.
i mean honestly, if something doesn’t directly affect them, they don’t think they should care about it?
so like, hurricane katrina didn’t directly affect most of the US… so unless we lived in new orleans, we shouldn’t care about it right?
it’s not on my doorstep, so fuck it?
that seems to be the mentality around here.
the sad part is that this issue actually will affect them.
from a community and business stand point, what effects part of us affects all of us but people just don’t understand this shit.
i guess everyone slept through world economics?
mvc2 was great. but if mvc2 continued to be extremely popular in japan, there is a much higher chance that we would have already seen an mvc3 or newer version of mvc2.
it’s not just about weakening the scene, there is also the development side of the scenario that people should think about. ssf4 scene being big in japan makes it much more likely that capcom will continue to develop the sf franchise.
the metagame develops slower when there isnt a arcade scene.
i mean youre from the us as am i…u know how it is right? online/console + top players being spread TOO FAR AWAY from each other in the us is why they discover shit and we dont. its not necessarily cause they have access to the arcade game first.
look at gouki vortex mixup…that bs shit was found out after console release, by japanese players and it is (from first hand experience) worse than any seth vortex imaginable. that came about because there were a bunch of high level players playing each other constantly with motivation and drive to step it up. that will all be lost, or progress slower, if theres no arcade release, because again, ggpo/offline casuals at a persons house is NOT A SUITABLE REPLACEMENT. lot harder for randoms to get in the scene and level up that way.
im all for the playing field being level, i actually agree with u on that one. shit is some real bs and has been for a while. but you know they could just go the mvc/cvs route and release arcade and console at the same time. not like theyd lose money (in japan anyways,) shit is win/win in terms of publiclity and good will.
you say who fucking cares, well look at it like this, maybe what, 5% at most of the global scene has access to the arcade version…and guess what…those 5% of players create hype for the other 95% of people. cmon id even go as far as to say that daigo (who is a arcade player) is also a marketing tool for capcom/srk, look at gamestop/evo and how people blog anything he says…online
i mean look at all the japan dickriding comments on youtube! and people also fail to remember how the hardcores at the time helped blow up sf4. Of course smart marketing by capcom played a big role here too, but it was word from the arcade players that had access to the game that helped shit get crazy hyped for console release. do people not remember the MASSIVE LINES outside arcades for the few places in the US that did have it?
come on now bro, even if you dont have access to a arcade, i cant see why people would be against it (since according to your logic it doesnt affect you at all right?) but i disagree. ur still the homie but i think ur 100% off on this. if youre worried about japan getting a headstart, i would hope that capcom releases both arcade/console at the same time, its not like theyre losing money on sf4 arcade anyways
most of us assumed they were going to patch the arcade version eventually with the sf4 console chars and the console ver was a beta test for that. guess what they didnt. =/
Voting yes on behalf of Norway (even though we don’t have a single arcade in the entire country)
It just doesn’t weaken your scene (I’m from Canada) but it weakens the scene of every country around the world.
i’d like to see an arcade release
No reason to be against an arcade release whatsoever. I’m all for it, get her done Capcom, give the arcades what they deserve! Arcades have died in the U.S. and yea Tekken is still running shit over in Japan, but don’t be a part of killing the arcade scene in your own home turf.
Game is TypeX2.
Just replace the HDD/dongle/artwork with another game HDD/dongle/artwork and you’re good to go.
Easy shit, much better than the standup cabs in America.
Japanese cabs are about chaging the games with little or no effort.
It’s no surprise that the most disillusioned posters in this thread are also the oldest.
A game is a game is a game, regardless if it’s on the console or in the Arcade. They will more than likely want to play this game and learn all there is to learn from it. What makes you so certain that they won’t. And who cares if they do or if they don’t. You guys act as if you’re nothing without them. Talk about serious inferiority complexes.
You guys can be just as good if not better than them if you are as dedicated as they are. If they do not play the game because of the lack of Arcade release, then maybe they are not as dedicated as we were led to believe…
Think about that for a moment.
Peace
clearly another comment from someone that hasnt been to japan, doesnt know about japan living space/lifestyle then claims that “if they dont play console they arent as dedicated as we were lead to believe”. rofl could u troll any harder
Not surprisingly this thread blew up overnight, and while trying to catch up with it I’m noticing a lot of people making the same false assertions over and over in this thread without citing any information to support their claim.
If you don’t care about an arcade release for SSF4, I can accept that, and if you don’t find the points in support of an arcade release convincing or significant, that’s fine. But enough with the claims that the Japanese top players will play this game regardless, or that the Japanese arcade scene is dying, unless you have proof of this stuff.
Come on, man.
If Clark Kent can bust out that Superman costume in a phone booth, I’m sure Daigo could pull off Shoryu>FADC>Ultra in one - no problem. :shy:
I dunno if this has been brought up earlier, sorry if it has, but what stops Japanese game centers/arcades from adding console setups? Couldn’t you even build a cabinet around a PS3, if need be? The coin-op aspect of it might be a problem or other issues, but it just seems to me that these things could be worked around if the game centers found a way to earn money off of using consoles (time-based, like in game/internet cafes, some kind of coin-operated stick or something)?
Could be more trouble than it’s worth, I don’t know, but if there’s no actual arcade game, this should really be looked at. We don’t want this to share the fate of other console-only fighting games (Mortal Kombat? Soul Calibur? terrible). SSF4 should be big enough to be made an exception, even though the game centers doing this just for them would likely bring about much saltiness, and I actually wouldn’t want games to be played like this as a standard in the future…mostly due to the inconvenience it might cost the arcades, which are probably still not financially booming.
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Or right aboot here, if Canadian.
If March 2010 rolls around and there is still no word of an arcade release I’ll be shocked. I can’t believe that Capcom would abandon the scene that pretty much built their company. I realize that we’re at a crossroads in which online play is nearly as viable speed-wise as arcade play, but that being said, it’s not there yet. This simply isn’t the time or the game for Capcom to not release to arcades, especially in Japan. 2 years from now and SFV? Maybe…
That being said, no arcades means no hype, and no hype means a relatively dead game. I’m afraid that not releasing SSFIV in the arcades would open the door for Capcom and other companies to start considering leaving the arcade scene altogether, which would be a loss for gaming as a whole.
Reality doesn’t match our ideals. Well, sorry if my ideals involve the best global scene possible. That’s why we’re trying to do something about it.
Some people are just like, hey, Japanese arcades are on the decline, fuck it anyway. Yeah, I guess all the arcades down there should just shut down, SBO needs to go console, and all the employees of Arcadia magazine should just pack up and go home.
Look there are a slew of reasons why it is a good thing to have an arcade release, whereas I can’t see any benefits of not having one. The reality is Capcom isn’t planning one (yet). However we also know Ono is always talking about how he pays attention to the community. So why don’t we, as a community, get behind a movement to get an arcade release?
Writing an email, signing a petition, or posting on a blog or forum are ways to let Capcom know this.
I just don’t know why anyone would be against this. I see 4 types of naysayers in this thread. Apathetic people. People in denial. People who don’t understand shit. And a few crazies here and there who seem to deeply resent the Japanese players.
i think some folks are getting it wrong. NO ONE wants there to not be an arcade release…
its just that some of us have stated that we really dont need japan, IF WE GET GOOD NETCODE… thats the big if.
no one in there right mind would say that an arcade release IS BAD… as if… we’re just saying that this is where its going, EVENTUALLY. and that we need to ween ourselves off of the dependency of jap technology… and create our OWN borg technology…
when i stated that jap arcades are dying, i’m citing srk sources of past where people from japan have stated that the arcade scene is nowhere as big as it used to be and that most of arcades revenues come from silly types of games… NOT fighting games. and no i dont feel like looking for the thread.
i’m TOTALLY fine with a jap/arcade release… i’d prefer it, if only for that whole “more competition, more rivalry” thing… but honestly, like sabre stated: few,few of srk are ever going to play jap players outside of evo. so other than that and looking at there vids to steal stuff, them not playing wont really affect me, neither will it affect most of srk.
if we support the game, we can get revisions. mahvel would have had a revision by now were it not for the licensing issues.
so yeah, i’m in for an arcade release… but only for decency to see my fellow fighting game players be able to easily get thwere hands on that crack as well…
but neither i nor anyone in the us particularly “needs” japan for our scene to be competitive to flourish.
want the proof?
we’re smart too, we have brains, we can come up with our own shit.
thats more than enough proof.
-dime