Petition for arcade release of SSF4

[ShinAkuma204]

Let me say that the Top 10 is very deceiving, especially if you don’t know the whole story.

The Top 10 in Arcadia is based on revenue income from participating arcades. The problem is that SF4 is retardedly expensive for arcade operators… they have to buy FOUR boards just to get the game to work. For small time shops that is not possible due to space and cost.

Games like Blazblue, Melty Blood and Gundam only require two and are much cheaper due to the hardware. Well, aside from Blazblue… MB and Gundam don’t run on the newer hardware so they’re cheaper to purchase.

So it’s a matter of the arcades not having it due to cost, therefore reporting lower incoming for the Top 10.

I oughta include that in my top 10 whenever I write them up lol.

Here’s a question - why doesn’t Capcom simply use the PS3 hardware or 360 hardware? Would that cut down on the cost to the arcade owners for SF4?

[guise]

This guy seems pretty cool, let’s read what he has to say:

Thus far I’ve found three things about the arcade release: the Interview posted in the OP, a scan that says, the arcade version will be talked about in the future. And a leak that contains info that the locations of the first set of Super arcade versions will be decided upon this weekend. So basically, until there’s something official, I won’t believe anything until I get at least an interview with no damn English dub. Do subtitles, damnit, that way I at least know whether you actually translated what Ono said.

Also: noone on Japanese message boards seem to give a fuck. Well, some do. It’s being mentioned in like 2 out of 800 posts.

I could equate this all to sports, but there really isn’t anything that hasn’t been said.

[Magnus02]

If this game is not released on arcade, I’m sure a lot of people, especially who’ve been in the scene for a while will be pretty fucking pissed. I know I’m gonna be…

Voted.

[smashingme]

signed I will never play an arcade because I’m dutch but I want the japanese to play it… no street fighter without daigo

[ParryAll]

Here’s a question - why doesn’t Capcom simply use the PS3 hardware or 360 hardware? Would that cut down on the cost to the arcade owners for SF4?

From earlier in the thread:

Um, no, they won’t.

They will NOT jerry-rig a 360 and PS3 into an arcade cabinet, especially corporate establishments such as Big Box (owned by Taito) or any Sega owned arcade. There is a lot of legal stuff involved if they were to do that, and if they did it without informing anyone… oooh boy.

Smaller privately-owned arcades such as Ko-hatsu WOULD do it but they would not do it all the time. In fact, Ko-hatsu did do a 360 Soulcalibur 4 tournament every week, as well as weekly game sessions where they would take out one game and replace it with 360 SC4. That lasted all of 3 months before the scene completely died.

You guys have to realize that without a JPN arcade release, the scene will still go on, and it may even be solid, but you will never see anyone on the same level as Mago, Daigo, Kindevu, Chibita, etc. because the level of play will simply not exist. The motivation to play will not be there.

AFAIK every company makes money on an arcade machine after it is sold. Someone who works at Monte arcade in Osaka told me that Sega takes 20 yen per every 100 yen from Virtua Fighter 5, but that’s apparently extremely high. I heard that the normal take is 10 yen per every 100 yen. So yes, they still do make money off of the arcade version even after selling the 25K units.

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[Mycah_Leonhart]

Can’t find it, It’s out there, I’m not crazy, think it was on a site and not SRK.

I mean hell Parabellum had to have seen it if he’s bitching about it having a Loke and not an Arcade Release.

I’ll find it and post it later.

[SaBrE]

while its sad to see no arcade release. it doesnt bother me. why does this matter to anyone not living in japan or a couple of hotspots in the us that are willing to import the hardware? i think its bs. these places always get a 6 month headstart. maybe nowits time to see what its like when evryone is on even playing field.

as far as if there is no arcade release, players on the level of daigo, mago etc, will not exist, is bs. or if we didnt have japanese videos to discover shit for us, is also bs. they discover shit first cuz they have fucking access to the game and we dont. thats why they get all the credit. we dont have players on the level of some jpn players cuz once again, they got a huge headstart. and does it matter? 99.8% of srk will never have the chance to play these guys anyway. Maybe at evo if they are lucky enough to get them in a bracket, and play 2 or 3 games. wow, 2 or 3 games a year. big whoop.

yes lets boycott a game over trivial shit that means nothing. /end sarcasm

if we get arcade, atleast in japan, cool. if we get it in america(never happening), thats cool too. but if it doesnt, big fucking whoop, it affects about 1% of the people that posts in this thread, and on srk.

[System_1]

Can’t find it, It’s out there, I’m not crazy, think it was on a site and not SRK.

I mean hell Parabellum had to have seen it if he’s bitching about it having a Loke and not an Arcade Release.

I’ll find it and post it later.

Either that, or he misapprehended from the start.

[ShinAkuma204]

From earlier in the thread:

That’s not what I mean.

I’m asking about officially licensing said hardware, much like how Naomi was basically a DC or the Tri-force board that was basically a Gamecube. It seems that one could save tons of money by using existing hardware that can be produced economically.

There does exist a PS3 based arcade board - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_357

I’m curious as to how this compares to the tiato board cost wise.

[ParryAll]

while its sad to see no arcade release. it doesnt bother me. why does this matter to anyone not living in japan or a couple of hotspots in the us that are willing to import the hardware? i think its bs. these places always get a 6 month headstart. maybe nowits time to see what its like when evryone is on even playing field.

as far as if there is no arcade release, players on the level of daigo, mago etc, will not exist, is bs. or if we didnt have japanese videos to discover shit for us, is also bs. they discover shit first cuz they have fucking access to the game and we dont. thats why they get all the credit. we dont have players on the level of some jpn players cuz once again, they got a huge headstart. and does it matter? 99.8% of srk will never have the chance to play these guys anyway. Maybe at evo if they are lucky enough to get them in a bracket, and play 2 or 3 games. wow, 2 or 3 games a year. big whoop.

yes lets boycott a game over trivial shit that means nothing. /end sarcasm

if we get arcade, atleast in japan, cool. if we get it in america(never happening), thats cool too. but if it doesnt, big fucking whoop, it affects about 1% of the people that posts in this thread, and on srk.

I’m all for leveling the playing field, and you have some great points, but we are still talking about cutting off an entire region, the strongest one in fact. While it won’t effect us directly, it hurts the scene as a whole.

I want to travel to Japan one day to play at their arcades, like many pros do now. I guess I should just learn Tekken.

[Shirts]

while its sad to see no arcade release. it doesnt bother me. why does this matter to anyone not living in japan or a couple of hotspots in the us that are willing to import the hardware? i think its bs. these places always get a 6 month headstart. maybe nowits time to see what its like when evryone is on even playing field.

as far as if there is no arcade release, players on the level of daigo, mago etc, will not exist, is bs. or if we didnt have japanese videos to discover shit for us, is also bs. they discover shit first cuz they have fucking access to the game and we dont. thats why they get all the credit. we dont have players on the level of some jpn players cuz once again, they got a huge headstart. and does it matter? 99.8% of srk will never have the chance to play these guys anyway. Maybe at evo if they are lucky enough to get them in a bracket, and play 2 or 3 games. wow, 2 or 3 games a year. big whoop.

yes lets boycott a game over trivial shit that means nothing. /end sarcasm

if we get arcade, atleast in japan, cool. if we get it in america(never happening), thats cool too. but if it doesnt, big fucking whoop, it affects about 1% of the people that posts in this thread, and on srk.

I wish everyone was as level headed as you.

[ParryAll]

That’s not what I mean.

I’m asking about officially licensing said hardware, much like how Naomi was basically a DC or the Tri-force board that was basically a Gamecube. It seems that one could save tons of money by using existing hardware that can be produced economically.

There does exist a PS3 based arcade board - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_357

I’m curious as to how this compares to the tiato board cost wise.

Yeah, I am clueless why they never did this in the first place. Seems it would be cheaper and easier. You would get a “free” version for arcades. The way they have it set up now means they have to code for a different hardware (Taito X2).

Such a great point and keep in mind, the number one game in Japan is Tekken 6 and it’s running on a PS3 based board.

[Shirts]

BTW, where was the outrage / petition for an arcade update for the new characters that appeared on the console version of sf4?

[Gutter_Trash]

instead of releasing an Arcade version with missing console-only characters and never updating 'em…
I am willing to bet that an Arcade version will eventually come out like Zero 3 ^

[triskadecaepyon]

Do any of ya’ll think that Ono is saying instead of getting SSF4 in arcade, it’ll be a different update of SF4 in arcade?

However I can see why capcom doesn’t want to release an arcade update. Even if the sold it new… at roughly $6k for the arcade game HDD, only about 6-10 cabs per arcade… 4-6 real arcades left in the US… it isn’t much money. However, SF4 on console at $60 x 1 million units shipped makes a lot more profit.

Well… here is to hoping that there will be SOME type of update for the arcade.

[Iduno]

From earlier in the thread:

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Ah guess that makes sense (that is if Capcom would view SSFIV cabinets as threats to SFIV arcade profits.)

Thanks for clearing that up

[deci]

while its sad to see no arcade release. it doesnt bother me. why does this matter to anyone not living in japan or a couple of hotspots in the us that are willing to import the hardware? i think its bs. these places always get a 6 month headstart. maybe nowits time to see what its like when evryone is on even playing field.

as far as if there is no arcade release, players on the level of daigo, mago etc, will not exist, is bs. or if we didnt have japanese videos to discover shit for us, is also bs. they discover shit first cuz they have fucking access to the game and we dont. thats why they get all the credit. we dont have players on the level of some jpn players cuz once again, they got a huge headstart. and does it matter? 99.8% of srk will never have the chance to play these guys anyway. Maybe at evo if they are lucky enough to get them in a bracket, and play 2 or 3 games. wow, 2 or 3 games a year. big whoop.

yes lets boycott a game over trivial shit that means nothing. /end sarcasm

if we get arcade, atleast in japan, cool. if we get it in america(never happening), thats cool too. but if it doesnt, big fucking whoop, it affects about 1% of the people that posts in this thread, and on srk.

why it matters to anyone outside of japan or not in an area with an arcade is posted all over this thread. (yes i know it’s really long and i’m not surprised that people might not have seen those posts, but a very simple point i made is actually linked in the first post)

i’ll recap it here:
no arcade release will very likely lead to japanese scene for this game (or at least ssf4, maybe not vanilla sf4) to die or go into decline.
if the japanese scene for sf4 dies, capcom (a japanese company) will very likely stop developing new content for it.
so unless you don’t want to see new versions of sf4 or possibly even sf5, yes… this should matter to you.

and this is only one simple reason. there are many more.

the importance of the arcade release of a game extends far beyond just arcades, people need to look at the big picture and not just what’s directly in front of their noses.

oh and i agree that the whole japanese discover the best strats first thing is bs (their best honda players still don’t even use basic shit like cr.mk xx hhs)
i also do not believe anyone should boycott the game and i really don’t think anyone will.

either way, capcom is not that dumb. i’m sure they already know that an arcade release if financially better for this franchise in the long run no matter what ono said in that interview.

[Kazi]

Yeah how bout this program the ps3 and xbox 360 to take quarters/yen per play problem solved

[Half-Ro]

while its sad to see no arcade release. it doesnt bother me. why does this matter to anyone not living in japan or a couple of hotspots in the us that are willing to import the hardware? i think its bs. these places always get a 6 month headstart. maybe nowits time to see what its like when evryone is on even playing field.

as far as if there is no arcade release, players on the level of daigo, mago etc, will not exist, is bs. or if we didnt have japanese videos to discover shit for us, is also bs. they discover shit first cuz they have fucking access to the game and we dont. thats why they get all the credit. we dont have players on the level of some jpn players cuz once again, they got a huge headstart. and does it matter? 99.8% of srk will never have the chance to play these guys anyway. Maybe at evo if they are lucky enough to get them in a bracket, and play 2 or 3 games. wow, 2 or 3 games a year. big whoop.

yes lets boycott a game over trivial shit that means nothing. /end sarcasm

if we get arcade, atleast in japan, cool. if we get it in america(never happening), thats cool too. but if it doesnt, big fucking whoop, it affects about 1% of the people that posts in this thread, and on srk.

Another good one.

[Trouble_Brewing]

while its sad to see no arcade release. it doesnt bother me. why does this matter to anyone not living in japan or a couple of hotspots in the us that are willing to import the hardware?

Again, there are other places in the world besides the US and Japan that play Street Fighter. There is still a thriving arcade scene all over East Asia.

I don’t live in Japan nor in an American hotspot, and it bothers the hell out of me. Why? The scene here is primarily arcade based.