Petition for arcade release of SSF4

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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In all respect, I don’t mean to insult you at all but…

Really? I mean I do have sf4 for ps3/pc and its fun to practice training mode when I feel like it, and I play around online with some nearby friends but do you really consider online play serious?

I play Fuerte, and online play is complete garbage, the obvious lag/delay/whatever it may be leads to several losses that would not happen had the game not be online.

I don’t normally reply to posts like yours I just find it hard to believe people really consider online play to be legitimate and not infuriating.

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Thus far I’ve found three things about the arcade release: the Interview posted in the OP, a scan that says, the arcade version will be talked about in the future. And a leak that contains info that the locations of the first set of Super arcade versions will be decided upon this weekend. So basically, until there’s something official, I won’t believe anything until I get at least an interview with no damn English dub. Do subtitles, damnit, that way I at least know whether you actually translated what Ono said.

Also: noone on Japanese message boards seem to give a fuck. Well, some do. It’s being mentioned in like 2 out of 800 posts.

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I really liked arcades back when I was younger but lets be honest, online play really does remove the thrill of playing in arcades nowadays.

People act as though arcades are pivotal for the survival of arcades. Its not really. If FPS can adapt from PC to console (with quite successful results despite the bitching of PC-heads) we for damn sure can go from arcades to consoles.

Well, I translate them via Google. They arent perfect translation though.

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+1 for arcade release. I have an arcade scene in my region and it would only help/complement the community. I’m sure there are other areas that would like one too.

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:pleased:

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And you have one mean online Fuerte, at that.

Though the lag isn’t that bad for us, it is there.

Hit me up in 20, and lock my Cammy’s ass down for a few.

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The use of capital letters at the start of sentences is a wonderful thing.

Capcom, Sega and pretty much every arcade company haven’t been making much money off arcades for years. You can’t be angry at a company for not supporting something it doesn’t make money on. They aren’t charities. While this is an odd decision considering it should only be an upgrade for the arcade machines and thus not be very expensive to roll out (compared to manufacturing arcade cabinets for this new version as well) I can understand Capcom wanting to spend less money on a dying medium.

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Oh, you didnt insult me.

And yeah, online isnt perfect but it’ll be better in the years to come. Although I dont find online THAT bad though. I can adjust to online and offline quite easily so it is no problem for me.

And nowadays, online play IS legitimate imo. Arcades is all but dead here in the US. Online is the most convient way to meet up people and play a quick game…without even leaving your house. Me and my friend dont even go over each others house to play SF4 anymore, we just play against each other online in our respective homes laying on our couches eating Doritos between every game.

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playing on psn and live kills the thrill of the arcades?
lol have you ever even been to an arcade?
how can you even compare playing random people online to playing at an arcade?

how are so many people here so near sighted that they can’t see that not getting an arcade release would affect us in the US?

lol at the people who are just like “fuck the japanese scene”, “stop dick riding the japanese”.
do you even realize it’s not about them? it’s about how it will affect us.
i already made a post in this thread about the main reason but to recap it here…
capcom is a japanese company. if ssf4 does poor enough in japan, or their scene dies… there is a good chance capcom will give up on the street fighter franchise.
you think that wouldn’t affect us?

and then there’s fact that i can’t believe people don’t give a fuck that the japanese scene might die. it’s not about dick riding. it’s about competition. i don’t want those fools to stop playing the game, i want the US to beat those motherfuckers. and i want the US to beat them at a game that is popular there and that they play seriously.

lets be real for a minute… competition in the US is only really good in a few areas of the country. i think everyone knows where those areas are. outside of that, the comp in this country is pretty weak right now… and instead of wanting a whole country of strong players which we can compare ourselves to and compete against, you guys are cool if all that competition goes away?
i’m not saying the US won’t keep playing the game or that it won’t still be a great community but some people are looking at this like it’s a good thing? you think it won’t affect us?

let’s say hypothetically the game isn’t going to be released in the east coast for some made up reason and so the east coast scene is going to die. you think this wouldn’t hurt the west coast scene?

oh and by the way, those areas of the US that have the good competition? yeah those scenes all happen to be located around a good arcade. you think this shit is coincidence?

fuck arcades? no fuck you dude. just because you don’t have an arcade scene close to you doesn’t mean there aren’t places in this country that do have good arcade scenes and don’t wanna see them die.

and fuck everyone else in this thread who is anti arcades. this game getting an arcade release doesn’t hurt you so why are you against it?
and why are you in here arguing against people who just want to support arcades? how does this even benefit you?
i mean shit, you can still go online and play the amazing competition on there lol.

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you don’t see anything wrong with this?

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i think that a lot of people are against this for various reasons. i think it’s p. evident that arcades are pretty much a lost cause here, and they HAVE BEEN dying in japan. sega and namco have closed a sizable portion of their arcades over the past couple years, and AM staff has been declining for games that arent dedicabs or some sort of redemption, which is where the bank is in arcades anyhow.

SF4 has never been a big seller in japan arcades i believe. Tekken, melty, vf, and GG/BB are the majority sellers over there these days. This being said, there has to be some reason that capcom is deciding not to release this iteration, why even a limited print run or board licencing like the vf people do (i think, i read that you rent vf from sega these days) isn’t feasible. with the game industry on the decline over there, i would imagine that if this was easy money they would be jumping on it. perhaps there are variables that are not known to us.

i think this issue of the arcade denial is primarily a Japanese concern, and not from an aspect of “they figure everything out for us” just for their players to be entertained on their level. like reno said, japan is pretty different, and getting folks together to dick around on games is best done in an arcade setting. i think some people who might be a little japan crazy are aghast for the wrong reason.

that being said, i watched my arcade die and it was a pretty sad thing. I worked there for most of my high school life, and it made me the social person i am today. there are other options that are being developed and tested. LAN cafes with consoles running can generate the exact same experience at a fraction of the cost to both owner and player. They just rely even more on dedicated customers than an arcade that also gains revenue from more random people walking in or leaving the kids for an afternoon.

i’ll sign. i don’t think the US needs an arcade release at all, but i’m pretty sure japan does.

tl.dr. why can’t we have both at the same time : <

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Yup, the arcade era has long since passed. Time to evolve.

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i’d say this is the gaming equivalent of vinyl djs switiching to mp3, or like your favourite night club shutting down.

as sad as it is, i think it’s just a natural progression.

just gotta move with the times.

i can see why it would hurt the feelings of arcade gamers…but arcade gamers make up only a small percentage of the gaming community these days. like it or not, it’s true.

i am happy that it’s a straight to console release because i don’t live near an arcade. however, i sympathise with the arcade guys and i hope you get an arcade release of ssf4.

surely this just means there are going to be loads more console tournaments everywhere?

valle was talking about adapting…i think the arcades themselves need to adapt. they will need to put in some console booths…and run weekly/monthly tournaments with prizes if they want to survive.

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Let me ask ya’ll something. Show of hands.

If there is a dude in here that is learning a character that didn’t scope some Japanese arcade or tournament footage to learn shit at one time or another? Anyone? That’s what I fucking thought.

Please. This whole GO USA FUCK JAPAN bull shit needs to stop. This is a world wide community. You are an earthling first and an American second. Think about your Japanese brothers. If you were living over there, with a thriving arcade scene, where you can get together with the best day in day out, and suddenly you are being deprived the new Street Fighter and forced to sit at your house and play online? To us Americans, it’s been like that. But don’t be so selfish and realize there is a world outside the United States.

And even if you are so selfish and just don’t give a fuck about Japan, you should. SBO is a HUGE part of the global tournament scene. Without an arcade release, that’s out. So is Arcadia Magazine doing tier lists. Gone. You are basically eliminating the strongest contingent of Street Fighter players out of the scene. So long kids. Go play BlazBlue.

I cannot understand for the life of me how the higher ups at Capcom could let something like this happen. This will weaken the scene sooo bad. Going from having all the best reference materials and the best strategys and tier lists from the strongest part of the scene. It’s going backwards. The best players inspire the rest of us.

But hey, fuck um. Let’s just go ahead and cut them out of the picture. We are Americans, and we haven’t had an arcade scene in decades. If they can’t adapt to console, why the hell should we care?

Put yourself in their shoes. Most of us here on SRK dream about having an arcade within 50 miles of us. Imagine how amazing it would be to go play Justin, Marn, Alex, Gootecks who ever the fuck on a daily basis or once a week down at the arcade. Imagine how much stronger players, how much tighter the community we’d have. Now imagine that we aren’t getting the new Street Fighter. Our friends over in Japan, they’re arcades have been dead for years, they turned a deaf ear to us. Fuck those Americans. They should adapt.

Now are you starting to get it?

Let Ono, Seth Killian, the higher ups at both Capcoms that this is a big deal and we need an arcade release to have a healthy worldwide scene. Let your voices be heard here, on blogs, and through email. Whether you care to admit it or not the truth is that this absolutely positively effects each and every player in the scene.

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Would it be so hard to add a mode that converts the game from a console mode to an arcade one?

Make Select = Coin 1, Start = Start 1, and let arcade operators figure out how to convert their candy cabs into PS3 cabinets…

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I totally hear you, but the fact is - not having an arcade release here in Japan wouldn’t hurt Capcom in any way. I’d fucking LOVE an arcade release, I live in Tokyo after all. But it’s not only the US where the arcade-scene is dying, and yes, an arcade-release is very important for the competitive scene here - but it’s still a niche, even here - and unfortunately I don’t think Capcom would really profit from releasing it on arcade. Even though a lot of arcades here are still alive and kicking, I can totally see all but a few of them dying out eventually. I don’t like it at all, but that’s just how things have turned out with all the console hype these times. As I’ve said before, until I hear anything official (some dub of some interview is NOT official in my book) I’ve still got some hope - but if SSFIV is not going to get an arcade release, there’s really nothing we can do about it. The era of arcades IS practically over, as sad as that may be.

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what do you think the situation was when sf2 came out? capcom still released it back then, in a dying market, and look what happened. on capitalization, fuck it. this isn’t german i’m not going to go and capitalize everything like it’s important. if you like grammar and spelling go to france and let academy francaise tell you what to do. and one more for the road, don’t tell me it’s harder to read because it’s a damn fact that lower case letters are easier to discern from one another than capital letters.

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i’ll sign. I love ctf, and I want ctf to get this game!

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It’s a natural progression, huh? So are Tekken 7, Virtua Fighter 6, BlazBlue CS are going to be console only releases going forward too? Is SBO becoming a console tournament?

This is not killing something in the name of progression. This is called throwing a white flag because SF4 didn’t perform as well as Tekken 6 or BlazBlue at Japanese arcades. Senses tell me that is the real reason. This is business, afterall, and it’s all about money money money. If they gave a fuck about the scene they’d know how wrong this is and they would not be doing it.

This is going to come back and bite Capcom in the ass hard.

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I can’t believe some people don’t give two shits about whether SSF4 gets an arcade release (even a Japan-only arcade release) or not.

People are all like "Yes, now we have the advantage. Now we can beat them, since we’ve had the game longer than they have."

I don’t have a single arcade near me, as of Jan. 2009, and guess what? I still give two shits about whether Japan gets an arcade release or not.

To all the people that agree with a straight to console release, it’s like you guys want a handicap or something. Are some of you guys REALLY that desperate to see the USA win against the Japanese?

For shame.

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Anyway

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http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid=8315