ok, let’s see the difference between arcade & console
Arcade:
You insert the credit, playing with your friend/unknown ppl(including foreigner, casual gamer who just spend time by trying the game intentionally or not, pro, nub, or scrub).
your goal playing at arcade is to keep your win streak ahead from varous opponent, either they nub, scrub, or pro. your sit are hot sit.
Getting know new people
Arcade tournament (SBO)
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Console:
Buy the console first+game, or playing it over friend house/rent/GameBar/etc
when playing online (of course you have to have internet connection 1st), if you playing local (5 green bars) good, but when you searching opponent, got the 1/2/3/4 opponent, there’s chance you will kick/kicked them. Even sometimes 2 bars good enough, some chicken ppl still want to kick because they want to play perfectly without laggy. (eg: asia vs west, vice versa). Not to mention ppl will swearing if one of the connection suck, or huge delay game progress, or making some excuses if lose from online play.
console tournament (EVO, etc)
offline gathering
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If I want SSFIV release for arcade badly is because for everyone to enjoy it. If you think I cannot afford buying those console, you are wrong.
I do also play online, still can do some strict timing combo such as F. HP cr. HP link Ryu at online matches.
If you remember Godsgarden tournament held at console that many players from arcade join (even foreigners from West and asia), those arcade player still owning. (And I don’t know why no one use console characters? Is that a rules for banned console characters? CMIIW).
Yes, I did paste the post from the other thread, because the information spread too fast and they not read that thread instead this thread.
I like your confident in us outside of Japan. But they have proven to be quite better than us. We need this game to be played by the projected best fighting game nation.
We can do are own thing as well, but we just lack the competition of skilled players. Fighting games over here are niche. Fighting games over there are a bigger niche though.
We are all spread apart while they are crowded around arcades facing each other. Check some of their records. They play fighting games quite alot. Although we are getting better. J.Wong is getting better even though he loss to Daigo twice.
It is kinda like saying FFXvsIII is outside of Japan only. and FFXIII is worldwide.
If Japan refuses to change and admit the existance of consoles, so be it! Let’s be the innovative creators of metagame this time around! This is not a responsibility but an opportunity!
What the hell are you talking about? A LOT of the top players have consoles. Mago has 360, Itazan has 360, Fuudo has a 360, Kaqn has a 360 and I know a lot of other players have console. The problem is that their play is going suffer because they won’t be as motivated to play.
Reno: Why would they be less motivated to play? Is console play that inferior? The US manages for the most part without too many arcades. With more focus on the console version online is bound to be better this time too.
Thank goodness there is no arcade version this time around. Hopefully this will be the end of arcade-first versions or arcade versions at all. Having to go to an arcade to learn a game is silly in this day and age.
I’m talking about the SFIV scene in particular, the way things are going a lot of people could end up not playing SSFIV out of principal, and confusing tournament organizers and players alike. I’m pretty sure no one wants two versions of SFIV running concurrently in tournaments.
its cause we are different socially and have big houses where we can drink and be loud. Plus if I had crazy big arcades near me where I can get out of the house and kick it with good players, I’d much rather play an old revision of a game than some new one where we have to go chill boxed up in a house :-/
I am completely down for this petition. As myself who lives very close to one of the known arcades, I would be very disappointed if they don’t have an arcade release of the game. While its true that some of people on the forum might not live or concern about the arcades, the arcades scene is definitely invaluable to not only this community, but also to the fighting games genre itself.
Not having an arcade seriously IS p bad for the community on both sides of the ocean. Not all of you guys may know it, but a good number of the best players in America, are more or less bums who hang around arcades in the LA and NYC areas. If there’s no arcade release, we’re excluding a good chunk of our player base, especially Cali and NYC players.
And again, we’ll no longer have an international competitor in Japan anymore either. There won’t be nearly as many foreign players at EVO 10 if there isn’t an arcade release.
If there’s no arcade release, you can bet that 90% of the players will just be suburban middle class American young men, much like with HDR.
i can’t tell if you guys are serious about just plain hating arcades or are being sarcastic. let me say this though one of the best feelings is going to CF with my friends having fun and actin bad like a kid at six flags…i’m the only one that’s even playing sfiv they just watch and make side bets, fuck around on gigawing and time crisis, shit like that you can’t do at home.
I think Capcom is waiting for the finish product of the game. They will probably see how the game plays on console and if they have any problems, they will fix it in Super Street Fighter 4 turbo. That would be the most logical idea for them. It saves them money and allows them to focus on getting the console version out first.
Japanese apartments are small, you can’t invite more than 2 or 3 people without it feeling totally cramped. Shit, when we went to Azrael’s house it was me, Azrael, Adverse, Kunai and HeartNana, and it was HELLA cramped. You couldn’t even move. We literally sat in the same place for 7 hours because it was such a pain in the ass to move, and Az’s place isn’t even that small for Japanese standards. Plus we can’t get too loud because the neighbours would complain. It is an apartment complex, afterall. Plus, inviting people over to your house just to chill alienates a lot of people who you would normally come across. I can imagine a lot of top players didn’t know each other too well before SF4, but are probably now friends because they spend their time in the same arcade.
Arcades are good because you don’t have to set a place, day and time to play people. You just show up and people will also show up. It is much less of a commitment than arranging a gaming session at someone’s house, because if no one is at the arcade, you shrug your damn shoulders and do something else. Or you go to another arcade and hope someone is playing there. They are also a central hub for a lot of people. For example, Azrael and I live in COMPLETELY opposite ends of Kansai, him in Kyoto and me in Kobe. The thing is that we both work in Osaka, and both of our paths cross this one really good arcade, so it is really really easy for us to just hop in there and run into each other, which we have done a lot. Multiply our situation times 1000+ players and you can see why arcade play is preferred in Japan. In other countries this doesn’t happen, and honestly no one outside of Japan should care about an arcade version, but if there is no arcade version, the scene here will die pretty quickly.
Really, there are way too many reasons why Japanese players will be less motivated on console to write about, but read over the entirety of this thread and you can get a general gist of it.
The point is that their whole atmosphere will change. It is not an exaggeration when saying that playing in an Arcade is NOTHING like playing online or even at home with friends. My local game-center is in a mall, the one good thing about it is that we have randoms come in and play sometimes but even that is still nothing close to what a thriving arcade is like. If I was living in Japan I’d probably be super pissed at this kind of news. Since I’m in the states and nowhere near an Arcade with anything beyond T5DR I’m somewhat neutral. There is definitely good reason for Japanese players to feel less motivated to continue to play SFIV at all with no Arcade release of the new version.
