they are the same system to the letter - a couple of volts and software is locked to region like most video games
I guess he was referring to not go out of you way to get a jp saturn when a us one is as good
Yes, if you already have a jp saturn, that is fine. It has video output as the US saturn. Scart and japan 21 pin refer to the tv end of the cable - the pinout on the saturn end, and as was mentioned, you will almost never come in contact with something that uses or requires the cable to be wired to the japanese 21 pin configuration.
edit: I meant that if you hadn’t already gotten one though, theres no advantage to obtaining a japanese one, as you can play any region games with the action replay 4m
Glad that’s cleared up. I wanted an American one but there was a great deal on the trading outlet for a Japanese one. Couldn’t pass it up.
That wouldn’t work? Are we speaking from experience or opinion here ? I know normal converters don’t cut it as its like poring a 10 cups of water in a 5 cup bucket and trying to get 10 cups of water back again. But I understood that scaller would correct those issues. I have no issue modding the N64 as that is minor, only slightly higher scale mod than Game Cube or Sega Saturn Region mods. But hacking an NES to have the Play Choice 10 PPU seems like using a band-aid on a bullet wound and calling it a day.
Yes you get better image clarity but as the risk of changing around mappers, colors are off, some games refuse to run. I could be wrong but doesn’t the PPU also controls sound, or is it the Z80? There no better work around than a Play Choice 10 chip?
That is my approach to the Saturn and imports.
Whats your RGB solutions for Americans that lack the Scart connection on their TV sets?
I thought the solution was the whole sync strike into scaler thing.
At least that’s what I got from RosserRooster, Mistasnart and DanAdamKOF (I’m sure I’m missing someone). Seems pretty solid.
Its certainly possible a nice standalone scaler like the DVDO edge or others will scale a composite signal better than your tv, but its really not worth is just for that.
Also, you’re really overstating the problems of the nes rgb mod. The colors differences are slightly off, and the games that are affected by the emphasis bit are few and far between. I haven’t ran into a game I’ve played on any regular basis that I’ve had problems with. The price is a concern, obviously, but don’t half ass it and waste money coupling a nice scaler with shitty composite video, just use a pc, xbox or wii.
There are a lot of scaler solutions for rgb - many involve keeping an eye out on ebay. A popular one these days is the CGA VGA scaler board coupled with some sort of external sync stripper like the sync strike, or a simple lm1881n circuit (retro console accessories has one she makes as wel). Here is a lot of info on various scalers: http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/
I use an xrgb2 at the moment, and am hoping to upgrade to a xrgb-mini in the near future.
Mehhhhhhh. Tracking info from retro console accessories shows my cables getting here Monday. It would have been sweet to have them for the weekend.
Zapf - I would not be opposed to a proper RGB thread. When I was doing my homework your name was all over the place.
Like Zapf said: be patient. I scored a completely functional Playchoice 10 cabinet off Craigslist for $200 a few years ago.
I’m still baffled on how this fairly straight-forward topic, where information being asked if readily available via simple Google searches, has consumed two entire threads in less than a week. 
I’m going to help confuse this whole thing even further: buy a 32-pin model 2 US Saturn, a Euro RGB SCART, pop a mod chip in it, get your Japanese games into iso format*, change the region to US using a patcher, burn them. Run the Saturn into the scaler solution of your choice. Done.
*And I’m not talking about piracy either: I run backups of all my Saturn titles (US and Japan) while the originals sit safely in a box. I’ve kept the things for far too many years to have them get randomly scratched by one of my friends.
Savior of the Internets. More like the originator of this thread hasn’t understood even the basic answers given to him when this all started in the T-SLG thread.
This.
And this.
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I can Google everything (I have googled everything) but I don’t want to do something just based on some random searches(things I’ve found concerning tech have been debunked here before), I wanna run it by some people who know what’s up. Excuse me for trying to understand something (by the way, I do understand it a hell of a lot better). This was all going fine until the freakin’ NES came up.
At the risk of taking more "YOU IDIOT"s:
Could someone tell me if this switch lags? Google isn’t helping like it usually does.
Theres no video processing why would it lag?
devices that process images are the only thing that you could run the risk of having lag
you may want to check some reviews of it though a lot of VGA switches are POS
Fair enough, finding reviews for this is hard because the listing is so generic and the brand printed on it isn’t helpful either.
I thought you were looking for a scart switcher not a vga one
I need both, and the SCART switcher has been found (the price with shipping is a little higher than I expected though).
http://www.consolesandgadgets.co.uk/catalog/madcatz-universal-scart-selector-p-1947.html
Figure I can chain these together if I ever need more and I’m unsure on whether or not to recommend getting a PSU for the Sync Strike…
my god thats going to be such a cluster fuck a vga spliter +plus power adapter scart adapter plus+power adapter a scaler + power adapter your going to need a another powder strip just to power all that junk and I’m sure your going to leave them all pluged in such a waste of power and money when you could simply just unplug one and plug in another you can play them all at the same time. have you visualized all this its going to be a real mess
I had the same thing done in composite for a while, just switching out what the cables are really. And I got this power strip from con Edison, shuts everything off if the main device is off. Major cable-age
I guess I could see for VGA cause you have two screws and maybe componet with 6 diffrent plugs and matching them up
But I would not worry about a scart selector cause you just have one big plug for video/audio and its not like its behind the TV it will be easy access
It shouldn’t waste thaaaat much power… even if he’s paying something like $.20 a kilowatt hour, and he has 4 adapters (Sync Strike, Scaler, SCART switchbox, VGA switchbox) that use something absurd like 5W each, then to leave them plugged in for a month would cost him under $1.
I do agree that this is approaching critical levels of Cable Spaghetti though.
Spaghetti. Ha! That’s awesome, I’m stealing that. I’m actually going to un hook everything and make it all neat before all this junk comes. I think that could be an optional step,complete with tying up the loose wire with a twisty tie or something? Not like any of this is moving.
So today I am due to get paid a butt ton of cash! I am gonna follow my own guide! EXCITING!