If the idea is that taking points away will stop bracketing problems or complaints about placement and byes, then that doesn’t make any sense.
People will still be unhappy that they’re ranked wrong and bracketing will still be fucked up regardless.
The points don’t necessarily make it a tournamnet or a ranbat, like holyrobot pointed out. However the attitude does. If everyones just going to poo poo rankings or points or say they don’t matter, then you aren’t really approaching things seriously enough to try to place. Which in essence is basically casuals. You can say the only place that matters is first but that’s like saying why even try or care if you can’t take first at EVO, etc.
It seems to me like there needs to be some sort of structure put in place because the debate on what to do is only happening because it hasn’t been defined yet.
The ranbats are not meant to be EVO training really are they? It seems like the idea is for them to be more of a measurement of the locals against each other and that is why I am interested in using a completely different scheme than normal,
because I want to put something in place that serves the purpose of the tournament perfectly. Regardless of the format you should probably feel confident enough to walk up and win a round at any time. After Saturday and thinking about it a lot, exact recreation of the EVO environment doesn’t seem to suit this tournament very well. A Ranked Battle is not a National Tournament and should definately include the lower level players in the rankings. If you think about it, your standard DE entry can go to 18 rounds played or more, so overall my idea could actually end up in a much faster tourney if we did best of 3, win by 2, everyone plays everyone and 1 round = 1 point.
Thats 21 rounds each not counting extra inning matches, not bad really and it would feed a nicely detailed point system as well as letting a lot more playing between us all happen which I feel is vital. We will try this next Saturday.
@ greyfox - stop being salty, you have to play to be the best!
@ ronnicle - grats on 3rd
@ simon/yangsing - you have the best philosophy i’ve heard today “the only place that matters is 1st”
@ tsunamiken - sorry i couldn’t make it i was in a car in another state i don’t know if you changed the format or if i got my match switched but hopefully i’ll be able to play this coming saturday
That sounds like a good idea. Let me know how it goes this Saturday as well as how long it takes. It also fixes the whole “I got screwed by the brackets” situation.
Casuals at my place today startin at 4. I already sent out a text but I dont have everyones number. Its open to anyone and everyone. I have 2 Plasma TVs, 1 PS3, and 2 Sticks. Mackinzie is bringing his PS3 so we will have 2 set ups. We will have SF4 so if you wanna play anything else you will have to bring the game. Send me a PM for personal info and directions.
Nice man, I appreciate the openness to a new idea. You are welcome to come participate every Saturday, I am going to nix signups and just bracket whoever shows up.
Very nice, I’m going to show up this Saturday with a friend who plays.
He is pretty good and its good to hear that you are willing to bracket who shows up and cater to us.
I want this to stay FUN above all and remain a pleasure for all of us so I go with the flow, it just seems like this will be a much better system overall.
Just so you can see how it will work all the way out I will toss this up for people to chew on.
Two matches for player X:
Typical Short Match:
X vs. A
Round 1 - X
Round 2 - X
Round 3 - A
Round 4 - X
X wins, 3 points for X and 1 point for A
Typical Long/Even Match:
X vs. B
X - 1
B - 1
B - 1
X - 1
X - 1
B - 1
( 3 and 3, win by two so they keep going)
B - 1
B is now 1 point from victory
X - 1
Tied again
X - 1
X is one point from victory
X - 1
X wins, 6 Points.
B gets 4 points.
X now has 9 Points
B has 4
A has 1
Points will accumulate for a season and be added up to generate our rankings.
By that logic if 2 players end up havin more matches cuz they keep tieing…then they will automatically have more points than everyone else. Just make it a flate out point system for each place. no need to over complicate this. The higher you place the more points you get.
alot points in the difference of time from the 99 second counter they beat a person and make it like golf he with the most points loses.
or you can alot points for the spread, like if they use claw vs sagat they’d get +4 points as it’s a 7/3 match up plus +1 for getting a win + 10 points for getting first place that’d be like at least alot of points.
better yet you can alot points for those who can also play mortal kombat val could win
Of course the players are going to keep tieing - its part of the mechanic, you just have to see it in action. It tends to reveal who is even against who and because of that you get matches where the points do go up. Also it tends to make people play harder because they have a little more space to synergize with their opponent.
Yeah, it’s from a different game but the same thing happens in matches in that game, it’s a theory I am going to test and see how it works out. We can cap points per match if it becomes an issue where Simon and Ray go 25 rounds against each other, yeah that’s going to break things a little bit so it could be capped at say 10. Keep in mind we are all going to play each other so the points will rack up fast. I am not saying this is a flawless system by any means, I am inventing it on the spot with some old stuff mixed in so input is welcome. I am kinda happy with it though, so we need to at least try it once. If its horrible I will agree on a new system, but just like there was a demand for Ranbats and I filled it, I will fill the demand for an exciting and motivational point system. Refining will happen over time but you have to jump in with both feet to start or you will sit around chasing your tail and getting nothing done. In other words it’s better to just start it and change that than have nothing at all because of indecision, so I am instituting something just to have it and we will see how it goes from here.
I will furnish a neon tiger striped bandanna from the 1980’s to the season winner, and they have to tie it on their head the way ryu shows his little brother in the movie. It will have the words “ETERNAL CHAMPION” embroidered on it. We will film this process, and then order an uncut Domino’s pizza and make them eat the whole thing without cutting it. We will also film that.
How about first place gets one point. Everyone else gets nothin’. See who gots the most points at the end of the season. How long did you want the “season” to be, anyway?