PDX Weekly Tourney / Casuals

Ronnicle beat Slayu2, Tsunamiken, Holy Robot and G effect.

One way of fixing the ranking is by keeping track of matches won (i.e. Someone who lost to 2 players but went 0-2 and 1-2 against the 2 players ranks better than someone who lost to 2 players and went 0-2 and 0-2.

When you get into this stuff though, heres an example though, would you honestly tell me what someone who would lose back to back matches to, For example, Ray and BBH, thus going 0-2, should be ranked lower than someone who went say 2-2 after beating two random players

Honestly, you guys are putting WAY too much thought into the point based logistics. If it isn’t the byes that are getting to you its why am i ranked lower to person x when i beat person x earlier.

this is what should be done. 1 point for every match you win. Byes will not count then

7 for first
4 for second
2 for third
1 for 4 through 8

And before anyone decides to bitch about someone getting second twice in a row being able to over take the first spot and crap like that, DEAL WITH IT. If you’re serious about the tournament style ranbats, you’ll try your hardest not to miss it, if you do, ces’t la vie.

^ The way Jeremy posted the places is correct. Ronnicle beat 3 people. I beat 2…Jeremy and Panda. Fox I know your salty that you didnt get a buy but when you look at the brackets thats how everything played out. It sux I know but now you should have something to work towards. Practicte and get better so you can place higher next time :wink: . Slash said it best. I think there should be an 8 man cap. First 8 peeps who show up get to play. This was only round 1. Everyone who participated gets a certain amount of points. Obviously the higher you placed the more points you get. This is a season so if anyone missed out or didnt do as well as they hoped no worries. It will be a weekly thing that will last for several weeks if not a few months.

That’s not what I said at all. Let me try to explain better: If someone played Ray and Ray won the first match and then they won the next match and Ray won the third match, they should rank better than if someone played Ray and lost the first and second matches.

I did think that it would be interesting to rank people based on who they lost when there are ties which is kind of like what you’re saying but I thought it would end up getting really complicated and it’s kind of the same deal as blaming the brackets for losing to a weaker player than BBH or Ray. In my opinion, I think it’s easier to keep track or matches and rank that way.

EDIT - I also don’t think that anyone’s bitching about anything. All this stuff is good to talk about now, since this is the first ranbat and it’s just an issue with playing an 8 man tournament. Things get easier to figure out when you have more people in a tournament.

only place that matters is first

I may experiment with a totally different way of running the matches since I think the 8 player cap is a good idea.
I will just explain it and see what people think.

single elim, first to 10 wins but you have to win by 2.

For the ranbats, in order to rank the players against each other and not simply determine who is best I think we need to play extensive matches against each other.
This will allow players to adjust to each other and that is the reason for the win by 2, because the matches usually end up going something like this:

p1 rushes out a fast 3 rounds, p2 is at 0
p2 starts to catch on to p1 a bit and takes the next round
p1 starts to rethink himself and p2 takes another round
both players start to play a relaxed game and the points rack up to 9-7
p2 gets another round, it is now 9-8 and the players have synergized completely, either p1 gets the last round or p2 gets another and keeps it going till one player can get ahead by 2.

This leads to some very intensive fights and I have a feeling it would have a great effect on the ranbats, as you could simply get a point for every round you take and that can be the scoring system.

Some immediate thoughts on that are:

wow 10 rounds is a lot - yeah it is but we can make it 8 or whatever works.
hey this isn’t normal sanctioned tournament play - hey this isnt a normal sanctioned tournament
i just plain dont like this idea - yeah but have you tried it?

I am sure you guys will have more to add.
I do want to stress that i really like this idea and i may force it on you for one weekend just to see how it goes.
With innovation can come progression.

I think we could definately benefit from that. Sounds like a good idea for casuals after the tourny, but wat too time consuming for the tourny itself. The whole point of the ranbats is to prepare for tournaments by participating in our own. PSU and EVO will be double elimination 2 out of 3. If it aint broken dont fix it :stuck_out_tongue:

This is my opinion on the whole tournament style system.

2/3 games, losers final, winners final, grand final is all 3 out of 5.

It helps to keep things like that as a standard because then it

A) Preps for tournament style play. No tournament is going to give you 10 rounds of practice unless its some kind of exhibition (Seasons Beatings 4 – Wong/Daigo) or epic money match (Evo09 Sabin/Daigo)
B) Forces you to play as hard as you can in those two to five games.
C) Prevents some really random bullshit happening like if someone has a bad day and gets shot down 0-10 then everything goes crazy.

The reason ranbats never really got off to a start at versis was because most of the discussion was about points, how do we do it. Double elim, single, round robin top 8 double elim?, and what not. Which is a bit of the reason as I had mentioned of doing the point system in my previous post. Mostly so that there is a system and it makes sense and will get people to stop worrying about “but why’d I only get this many points” and other bullshit. TBH, fuck the point system and just run weekly tournaments.

I agree. I’m not going to be able to convince my wife to let me come to the ranbats if they take longer than the tournament took this time. Yangsing is right, all that really matters is first. So should we just rank people in top 2 or top 3 since we’re doing 8 man tournaments? I’d be good with that, honestly.

^ stop repeating everything I say slash lol

Actually you posted as I was typing a response.

Well stop typing so slow

Its not typing slow, its editing SSF4FC vids at the same time

I didn’t know much about the ranbats at Versis since I was just kind of getting involved with SRK when all that was taking place. If that’s the problem everyone had with them, I wouldn’t mind just doing ranbats without a point system. I had a blast with the first ranbat and just loved the idea of competition and playing something other than casuals.

You tell people not to care about the points or the rankings, but that’s the only reason to do ranking battles.

That doesn’t make any sense to me.

There’s no prize on the line but pride and esoteric points.

If people aren’t making an attempt to win or fight for their spot, then we’re basically just doing casuals.

Stop waisting time with those vids and make me some artwork for my TE with olivia munn in her chun li outfit 0_0 . Travis is slackin.

I would like to have a points system so we have a track record but if we all cant agree on it then im cool without one. Just competing in the tourny was fun enough for me. We also have the option of putting a few bucks in a pot for the winner. nothing crazy maybe $1 or $3 max. Winner takes all.

No. I said fuck the point system.

If you’re gonna show up and fight for your damn pride, you’re gonna show up, sit down and play your ass off! It wouldn’t matter who you’re against, you’re gonna show up to win.

And even then, if you want to talk about fighting for your spot. If some of portlands top players don’t show up, you can’t say you’re the best in Portland.

4 people… get it right, get it tight.

This.

Anything you guys come up with I’m sure will be fine, either way I’m going to be aiming for the top every week.
I could care less about the points, if I ended up in first at the end of the season but never got the top spot at a tournament it would be a empty victory.

No point system doesn’t necessarily mean it’s just casuals. It’s still a tournament.