Paedophile party to contest Dutch general election

thats an interesting question. i am currently not studying anything, i’m a network administrator. however, while i was in school, i studied both political science and psychology. i have studied human sexuality in school and out. i have an interest is sex obviously, but also the psychology of it, how different culture percieve it and just about anything else i can study on the subject. you can imagine how frustrated i can become with the american standard that violence is ok but sex is dirty.

i plan on going back to school, but to study english with a focus on writing. i wanna be a writer one day, its just between work, wedding planning and life in general, i’m finding it hard to get back into school.

Obviously. But at least I didn’t make the stupidest accusation in the history of the internet. Seriously. How can you honestly believe that? Last I checked, no political party was founded upon something worse than advocating the destruction of children’s lives for sexual pleasure and saying that Conservatives, with their tax cuts or opposition to stem cell research or whatever, are worse in ANY way is just stupid.

Seriously, I just thought you were overly-idealistic, but you proved to me that you’re just stupid.

Seriously, I don’t get how you can actually think that allowing people who want to sexually pleasure themself to children being forced into sexual situations being free on the streets because of painfully stupid technicalities is a good thing.

lol - kid, you’re almost as funny as the spirit of truth. shut your little bitch mouth up before i own you some more.

edit: you made one of the most ignorant statements i’ve EVER read in an argument btw - i don’t care about the constitution - jesus fuck kid, i mean, you aren’t gonna prove you have any sembelence of intelligence over me by making stupid fuck statements like that…

You owned me? All you seemed to do was mash your face against a keyboard and say I was molested as a child. All you do is keep on making contradictory statements about how you don’t support child pornography, but you DO support people wanting to get it. Brilliance.

really, could you PLEASE quote where i directly said i support people getting kiddy porn. please. btw, stop harping on the molested thing…i said alot more than that, i’m sorry it went right over your head fuck stick. you got the intellectual bitch slap cuz all you can do is infer bs from statements instead of actually understanding the words written. i don’t support people getting kiddy porn. this is why you are such a stupid fucktard, you don’t even understand what the fuck i’ve been saying this whole time idiot. i mean, i’ve debated some stupid people in my day on here, but you take the cake kid. you have the debating skills of a hamster. notice your only backup comes from fucking inverse? doesn’t that bother you? your an idiot. take a poll bitch, find out who actually think you have any valid arugument whatso ever. fuck, try and prove you even begin to understand what i’m saying.

Wow, you sure made your point clear in that. For somebody who says that I have the debating power of a hamster, you sure do seem to do nothing but contradict yourself and insult people or condescend to everyone who disagrees with you. At least I have an opinion, you just have ramblings.

i’ll repeat the question, PLEASE FUCKING QUOTE WHERE I CONTRADICTED MYSELF. can you read that idiot? also, its a bold statement to say i have ‘ramblings’ when your post have been nothing but ramblings kid. once again, you have brought nothing but ignorance to this issue…

*surly voice

And so a MIGHTY FRIENDSHIP was formed between Angryliberal and Spuddly FF8 Fan.

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The simple fact that you “do not support child pornography” but support and advocate the 1) people who look at it, and their drive to look at it and 2) the ACLU who has attempted numerous times to legalize it, and repeatedly and wrongfully bails out people who get caught. Not to mention the fact that you don’t even think that the people who are ADMITTEDLY pedophiles should be treated as pedophiles because they might not have been caught.

You simply show no compassion for the victims of the child pornography, and that’s sickening to me.

no, once agan you are wrong. is it a disease, or do you choose to be openly wrong this much?

i don’t advocate people who look at cp or their drive to look at it at all. that was never a point i made or even infered to. so please, learn to read. i do support people’s right to run under any platform they choose, that was advocation of free speech and democracy, the ideals were never a subject of my argument.

secondly, i support the aclu because it protects the constitution. did you read my post about the guy who got busted at my work? probably not. i said, i supported him being thrown in prison for what amounted to his life. i was glad. the fbi also went about that bust in legal, constitutional means. if you wanna be pissed, don’t be pissed at the aclu for doing their job, be pissed at the fbi for NOT doing their job in busting the ‘candyman’ guy. see this is where you fail, you are blinded by emotion to the simple truth of the matter. you probably belive that no one deserves a defence attorney that will do everything in his power to get their client off…sorry, thats not teh country you live in. i’m not being idealist, i’m being absolutely realistic about the system i live in.

i show absolute compassion for the victims of child pornography. it sickens me to no end. at no point was that ever the point i was making, and like a broken fuck record, i’ll repeat my point - people have a right to voice their ideals. popular or not, they have a right, and once again, its the job of the given society to accept or reject that proposal. thats all this is about. i’d be arguing the same for any party, its not beliefs or validation i’m arguing here, its their right to voice that opinion. you can see that as advocation of child pornography, but like the rest of your thoughts here, you would be wrong.

I am not looking this emotionally. I don’t care who was doing their job or not doing their job. The people busted in the Candyman thing were dangerous, that is UNDENIABLE. And the ACLU was WRONG to put a dangerous man back on the streets for ANY reason. I am concerned with the lasting damage to the victims, while you’re just complaining about the constitutional rights of the DEMON who commited one of the worst crimes in mankind. Your remedial, immature idealism and blindness to the shortcomings of the constitution, and the hypocricy of you thinking it’s to help protect the people DOING the crimes, rather than the actual victims of it. I believe in defense attornies. But even so, it isn’t like whether or not his guilt was debatable.

And that is just empty words.

spudlyff8fan, lol. I’m only a year older than you, but your views seem to be that of a child. Your seeing things way too black and white. The world as it is different shades of grey at best.

And secondly your taking what angryliberal is saying totally out of context. I don’t need to say more here cause various peopel have tried correcting you but failed so i don’t see why i would have any luck.

And probably the worst thing you’ve said so far is

This proves your total ignorance. What about Hitler or Stalin. They killed countless of men and women (including children) based on your own logic. Lets kill certian people just because we don’t like them.

Really? Where’s the gray when it comes to pedophilia? When is looking at child pornography anything BUT flat-out wrong?

I’m not taking things out of context. I’m just referencing conflicting statements.

As for the political party thing…yeah, you’re right. Active Nazism is worse than an active Pedophile party. But even so, no COMPETITIVE political party in America was founded on the legalization of horrible acts.

wow i cant believe angreyliberal is willing to repeat himself still. Let me try to state the stance in simpler terms as to help more people understand.

  1. People who rape and exploit kids (or anyone for that matter) are bad and should be punished. People who only find kids sexually atractive( aka pedophiles), are not doing any harm to anyone.

  2. While most of us personaly find the attraction to kids just as sick as the attraction to old people, fat people, retarded people, and handicap people. The attraction alone is not enough to merrit a crime , dispite my obvious dissagreeance.

simply put spuddly, you did not understand one word i said. everyone here will agreeto that. just stop, your interpretations of my words have been wrong 100%. give up.

Really? So do you think that America is better because the ACLU set that guy free? Answer it honestly, Liberal, do you think it is BETTER FOR SOCIETY that admitted and/or known pedophiles are allowed free.

And let’s be reasonable, Alex. They like kids sexually. Do you honestly think somebody with an eternal, unchangable sexual attraction to kids will never, ever, ever look at child pornography throughout their life?

ok, that is a totally loaded question. if i say yes, i’m a pedo supporter and if i say no, i’m a hypocrite. my answer is this, the ramifications of the judicial system and constitution being subverted are far more dangerous to society than a man that is now publically known to be an ACCUSED(not guilty, but accused) pedophile, or seeker of underage pornography. you may disagree with this, but thats only looking at the small picture, not the big picture.

you do not understand the ideal of the aclu. they do not seek to get crimnals off, they seek to protect the tenents of the constitution. thats it. the ideals of the indivdual involved has very little, if no, bearing on their willingness to take the case. its the subversion of the constitution that is at stake. do you understand that once a ruling is laid down, it become a precedence. so, if they rule entrapment was ok here, someone can just use this case as prescedence to subvert the constitution again, and that is far more dangerous than 100 pedophiles. you have no reference, you are too young obviously to see the bigger picture.

whether you believe me or not, i loathe exploitation of children. it makes me very angry. just as i loathe anyone, especially the government, subverting the constitution. while it may pain us to see a criminal go free, it pains me even more that our own government couldn’t follow their own rules to do it. their ‘cheating’ let the man go free, not the aclu. as soon as you understand that, you will be on the road to understanding my stance throughout this whole thing. if you cannot, well, then you have to resign to ignorant bliss that you have been correct…

I understand your stance perfectly. I just think it’s wrong in how it puts too much emphasis on the overall repurcussions of each case in terms of legal semantics, rather than the immediate threat of dangerous people.

well, thats too bad. it saddens me that the younger generation is willing to give up their rights for the illusion of safety.

edit: the government cheated, if its allowed, they can cheat from that point forward, no matter what, because it is now a legal precedence. thats how laws work in this country. thats what you fail to understand. its another case of sacrificing our rights a little more and creating a totalitarian system where the government has absolute precedence. our rights don’t all just disapeer overnight, they get chipped away, little by little, using fear as a catalyst. i’m not willing to sacrifice it in the face of a single person accused of seeking child pornography…